Disinformation hasn’t been the problem with the particular source, it’s the fact that it is providing information that’s contrary to the narrative. The actual disinformation about the war has been coming from western source which keep telling us that Russian economy is about to collapse, that Russian army is pulling out chips from washing machines, that Russia is running out of missiles any day now, that Russia is isolated on the global stage, that Ukraine is doing great, that there are no fascists in Ukraine, and there is definitely no busification happening. The real issue here is that it’s western media that it’s western narrative that’s divergent from reality. And now it’s becoming increasingly difficult to hide the fact that the war is going poorly, and its economic effect on Europe, so the EU is becoming very insecure.
This dualism you are promoting where there is a good side and a bad side, an honest actor and a dishonest actor etc is text book Hollywood propaganda. You’re so trapped in the western overton window you can’t even see it.
I think you might be talking about yourself here, cause nowhere did I say the west is the good guy here, nor have I suggested that there is a good side at all. What I actually said was that western media objectively puts out far more misinformation because the narrative it is promoting is at odds with reality. It’s not that Russian media is more honest, it’s just they don’t need to lie because Russia is winning the war.
You literally said they aren’t doing disinformation and then said the other side are. This is just whataboutsim. All sides are engaged in disinformation. What anyone else does has no bearing on what RT do. It’s exactly what I described.
I literally provided examples of constant disinformation we’ve had in the west over the past 4 years. Yes, all sides engage in pushing their own narrative, and that’s precisely why it’s so dangerous to limit access to information the way EU is doing. The argument that RT is exceptionally bad in this regard so that it specifically has to be blocked has no basis.
You may have an issue with this, I can certainly see why even if I think that no system of mass media is ever going to be healthy for society again, but what I don’t really understand about some of the posting here is that there are many proud authoritarians of the communist variety getting upset about authoritarian laws.
Don’t see it. What part of this aligns with me thinking RT is exceptionally bad? The only opinion I put forward is that mass media is equally bad from all sources. IMO it is literally the only reason mass media exists in the first place.
You’re literally saying you can see why it would be reasonable to ban a specific source. So, your whole position is self contradictory. If there is no difference in quality of media from all sources, then there is no justification for banning a specific source.
Disinformation hasn’t been the problem with the particular source, it’s the fact that it is providing information that’s contrary to the narrative. The actual disinformation about the war has been coming from western source which keep telling us that Russian economy is about to collapse, that Russian army is pulling out chips from washing machines, that Russia is running out of missiles any day now, that Russia is isolated on the global stage, that Ukraine is doing great, that there are no fascists in Ukraine, and there is definitely no busification happening. The real issue here is that it’s western media that it’s western narrative that’s divergent from reality. And now it’s becoming increasingly difficult to hide the fact that the war is going poorly, and its economic effect on Europe, so the EU is becoming very insecure.
This dualism you are promoting where there is a good side and a bad side, an honest actor and a dishonest actor etc is text book Hollywood propaganda. You’re so trapped in the western overton window you can’t even see it.
I think you might be talking about yourself here, cause nowhere did I say the west is the good guy here, nor have I suggested that there is a good side at all. What I actually said was that western media objectively puts out far more misinformation because the narrative it is promoting is at odds with reality. It’s not that Russian media is more honest, it’s just they don’t need to lie because Russia is winning the war.
You literally said they aren’t doing disinformation and then said the other side are. This is just whataboutsim. All sides are engaged in disinformation. What anyone else does has no bearing on what RT do. It’s exactly what I described.
I literally provided examples of constant disinformation we’ve had in the west over the past 4 years. Yes, all sides engage in pushing their own narrative, and that’s precisely why it’s so dangerous to limit access to information the way EU is doing. The argument that RT is exceptionally bad in this regard so that it specifically has to be blocked has no basis.
Good thing I never made that argument. I don’t agree with the ban at all.
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Don’t see it. What part of this aligns with me thinking RT is exceptionally bad? The only opinion I put forward is that mass media is equally bad from all sources. IMO it is literally the only reason mass media exists in the first place.
You’re literally saying you can see why it would be reasonable to ban a specific source. So, your whole position is self contradictory. If there is no difference in quality of media from all sources, then there is no justification for banning a specific source.