• Labor Class@lemmy.world
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    Russia has already exhausted before Europe! Russia is sick man and will probably take +20 years to recover.

    Russia lost its influence over several countries. This war benefit USA and China.

    Europe is the lesser of USA,China ,Russia and Europe evils

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      Europe is the lesser of USA,China ,Russia and Europe evils

      Hell no. You guys are literally one economic crisis away from sieg heil in the street.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      Except in the real world Russian domestic industry has been developing at the fastest rate since the fall of USSR, and Russian economy is doing far better than any western economy right now. Russia also managed to redirect trade away from the west and towards the Global South where most economic development is actually happening now.

      On the broader scale the war is between G7 and BRICS, and the US and China do indeed act as a backstop for both. Given that, it should be pretty clear why Russia will prevail in this war. Should Russia fail and become destabilized, that would be a huge disaster for China because Russia would become their Ukraine. NATO would be able to start building up forces on China’s western flank, and to cut them off from access to food, energy, and resources they get from Russia. This is obviously not going to be acceptable to China. So, if Russia ever finds itself in trouble economically, China will necessarily step in.

      On the other hand, Europe is backed by the US where economic woes are going from bad to worse, and hence why the US is increasingly distancing itself from the war handing over the burden to the Europeans.

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        Russia economy is about one-tenth that of Europe and the USA economy ,which is pretty bad for world power . Even Italy gdp is larger than Russia . This situation is not sustainable for Russia . I

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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          It’s absolutely incredible to me that people are still parroting this 4 years into the war. GDP is not a measure of real economy, and in terms of productive economy Russia is very clearly far ahead of the collective west as evidenced by the fact that it’s outproducing all of NATO militarily right now. Vast majority of western economies are now ephemeral things like the service industry and the AI bubble which don’t produce anything of tangible value.

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            GDP is not a measure of real economy

            Correct it’s only a meaningful measure for countries not lying on numbers. So Russia is already out and probably a lot worse than what GDP would suggest. 😂

            Russian domestic industry has been developing

            Name something they produce that is not instantly shipped to Ukraine to get trashed there? 😂

            in terms of productive economy Russia is very clearly far ahead of the collective west

            😂😂😂

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              It’s not a meaningful measure period because it doesn’t measure what sectors of the economy contribute to GDP. Any actual economist will explain this to you.

              Name something they produce that is not instantly shipped to Ukraine to get trashed there? 😂

              How to say you guzzle propaganda uncritically without saying it.

              I always wonder where clowns like you are bred. Does Europe has a clown farm?

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            More than 100k people lost their job ,because ‘ai bubble’ . Russia outproduces Europe in certain critical items but not the US, and not in advanced systems like aircraft or missiles

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              The AI bubble props up a bigger chunk of the US economy than dotCom bubble did, and the economy back then was far more diversified. When it pops there will be huge repercussions across all sectors. Russia outproduces both Europe and US in pretty much all advanced systems. Meanwhile, the US has burnt through most of its existing stocks and is now unable to produce more because it is unable to refine rare earths on its own, and China has cut off access. F-35s are now being delivered without radars lmfao https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/official-f-35s-now-being-184154599.html

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          GDP is not an actual measure of industrial productivity. Europe and the US are utterly dominated by finance capital, they are hollow shells when it comes to industrialization and as a consequence their economies are dying out as imperialism and neocolonialism become less profitable for them.