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  • Eldritch@piefed.world
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    Well for many it has been designed to be an all day thing. If you only have to take 20 minutes to vote. Consider yourself very lucky. It’s not uncommon especially in red states in the United States. To hear stories of people waiting in line for 3, 4, 6, to 8 hours or more. And I can sympathize with people not wanting to go through that. That’s the whole point of it after all.

    But yeah if you’re in a place where it would only take 20 minutes to vote. It is absolutely ridiculous not to vote. Ultimately voting alone isn’t going to fix or change anything. It’s going to take a lot of us running as well as working outside the system. And if you decide not to vote yourself. That’s fine. That’s your choice ultimately. But then advocating and campaigning for others to not vote as well. And that seems intentionally self-destructive.

    • Rose@lemmy.zip
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      Would Trump’s anti-trans orders or their equivalents exist under Kamala?

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          Tankies see that as a win, to them USAID and anything similar was just an “imperialism tool”

        • kersploosh@sh.itjust.works
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          Or having masked secret police arresting and deporting whomever they wish with no due process?

          They were totally criminals bro. Trust me bro. No, you can’t see any evidence. And no, I won’t bring them back. They’re gone, bro, it’s out of our hands now.

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        Not likely. But that doesn’t make them actual allies. There’s value in not accelerating harm and collapse of course. But that’s little consolation for those already being harmed. Which unfortunately just voting for the candidates put forth by the party establishment isn’t going to change. They’ve largely shown no interest, and only moved when they absolutely had to do something.

        It’s going to take candidates like the DSA running as Democrats against the establishment. Tearing the party and it’s leadership from the hands of the establishment. Which voting will absolutely be a part of. But not the solution itself. Give the people something to vote for. Not against if you will.

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        It’s the same Supreme Court, so yeah. Also, another Republican is going to win at some point, and as Joe Biden kindly demonstrated, electing establishment Democrats does fuck-all to prevent the Republicans from killing even more people

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          The court cannot issue an executive order. And people live in the now, not the future. We’ll all die one day, but that doesn’t mean we should act like we are doomed. Even four years can be critical, especially for a trans kid looking for access to puberty blockers. Lastly, not all Republicans pursue the exact same policies. There is a reason Trump is among the lowest-ranked US presidents.