• PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world
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    Where did I say communists don’t use fossil fuels? I do maintain they use objectively less though. There just less need less production all around.

    Hell, your knowledge about. Venezuela is even incorrect. Its categorically a failed socialist state, not a communist one.

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      Neither of those things are capitalist, so my statement holds.

      If people need to consume fossil fuels, socialists or communists will produce fossil fuels. This isnt rocket science.

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        People don’t need to consume fossil fuels, though, so… 🤷‍♂️

        Defeated by your own argument

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        “People” are not responsible for the majority of our emissions. Businesses are, as well as the military to an inordinate extent.

        Again, I never once mentioned a zero fossil fuel society. You are putting words in my mouth.

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          People cause there to be demand for fossil fuels, not corporations. Businesses don’t burn oil for funsies.

          People are absolutely the cause of all carbon emissions. Businesses only exist because there is demand

          This is why a carbon tax is an effective means of fighting climate change. It disincentivizes consumption of fossil fuels and thus lowers demand

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            It’s not as simple as that, bro. There’s demand for fossil fuels because our entire society was built around it, before we knew it was a problem. Now we do know there’s a problem, but our industries and lives are still dependent on energy, with the majority of the energy required to be from fossil fuels. For consumer demand to stop, we’d have to literally stop using energy altogether.