Hopefully, though they depend on Labour not shitting their pants and negotiating their way out of government.
Yeah… I’m hoping chippy can play this well. He seems to be handling things well so far (and the greens have had really strong media time lately).
Hopefully we don’t have another resurgence of the ‘foot in mouth’ faux pas that the greens were doing so spectacularly ~18 months ago
To be fair, they have to aim to be in government or they’re not doing their jobs, so she’s stating the obvious. They’re not a protest party that only wants to make noise.
I mean, no shit. They’re a political party, of course they want to get back into government. This is like an athlete or racing driver saying they want to win.
Just curious, is this the same Green Party as in the US’s green party? If so, how does anyone honestly support it?
I’m not familiar with the US Green Party, but ours cares about the environment, equality and fairness, which people quite like. They do tend to make more unforced faux pas’s than they should :D
Ours is a Russian asset to thwart elections.
So yours is being crowded out of its niche by the Republican Party?
Why do you think that might be the case? Do you think all Green parties are one organisation or something?
Your second question was my first question.
Determined enough to find common ground with national or labour?
Unlikely.
They have managed to work with Labour before. I’d be intrigued by what a ‘teal’ coalition between the Greens and National could possibly look like in NZ: I think both parties would have to swallow some bitter pills when it comes to negotiating a coalition agreement, and I suspect many Green supporters would see it as a betrayal.
Yep.
I don’t see how the greens could go with national and not lose a big portion of their base.
Opportunity is also the teal party now. It is occupied territory, the greens can’t really step into that space without looking a bit daft.
Thus like act, they are welded to the bigger party for better or worse. In my view both act and green should have limited negotiating power, they are never going to cross the isle.
You’d think that there ought to be a teal voter: conservative, both in terms of conserving economic resources and in terms of conserving our natural resources. But I guess there are not many big businesses lobbying for these types of policies, whereas the fossil fuel industry goes hard with lobbying.
Yes. Me.
And a lot of people I talk to, maybe it is my biased bubble. But there are a lot of people in the teal camp. I don’t have social media beyond Lemmy… So these are IRL people, far more than 5% in fact.
I hope that when the vote is counted, teal voters will have had the courage to stand behind their values rather than be afraid of the “wasted vote”.
If polling shoes a consistent above 5%; this is far less of a concern.
@absGeekNZ @ooo_shiny, imho Opportunity is just another way to support National, the party that made just about every single day since they took over governing nearly three years ago a bad news day - many catastrophic ones.
The name opportunity reflects the parties wants, an opportunity to enrich themselves.
Their policies are mostly paling in substance and accuracy to what ie
the Green party has shown.
In my opinion whether they reach the 5% or not it’s very much a wasted vote if you want to better what’s going on now.Opportunity is being attacked from both sides.
It is not a vote for national.
On current polling, they will talk to labour first. There is a lot of common ground with the left, so an understanding is likely to be found.
@absGeekNZ , I disagree.
I think it has been solely created to dilute the left and Luxon will happily embrace them if it gets him another three years of bulldozing this country into the ground.
I’ve got this guy tagged as simply “munter” in my app. I don’t remember why, but they’re not doing anything to make me think I was wrong.
