• Zetaphor@zemmy.cc
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    1 year ago

    The dude has a pretty damning public record of being intolerant towards women and minorities, it’s not like it’s hard to find this stuff. Let’s not pretend like a few bad actors being in the mix suddenly make this guy a patron saint. And even if you want to ignore him directly, it’s hard to ignore the type of crowd that he gathers. Birds of a shit-feather flock together.

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      1 year ago

      Dude. Every other politician out there in the last 3 years had a good record of being intolerant to people who claimed “my body my choice” but you won’t care because “it was wrongthink”.

      It’s not hard to find repubs and dema saying heinous shit and pushing war or hate against opponents but we have to pretend Trump is somw terrific thing. The patron saint is a bullshit. Strawman.

      The type of crowd that gathers around wantijgn to ban dissent is actually worse and more damaging. You can only end up as a one narrative circlejerk if you go down that path. Specially when defederation seemiike a frequent thing.

      Instead of leaving it to the useer, it’s as if you want to change it to "follow the list of this mainstream person/newspape’.

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        Instead of leaving it to the useer, it’s as if you want to change it to "follow the list of this mainstream person/newspape’.

        The instance admins are free to express themselves just as much as any other group of people. If you don’t like the outcome of their decision then you’re also free to go and create an instance or move instances.

        If a majority of their users decide they don’t like the actions the administration of that instance are taking they can always move instances to one that more closely aligns with their viewpoints. If they choose to stay then clearly they agree and are very likely part of the group you clearly don’t want to be associating with.

        Nobody is entitled to the service that instance admins offer, and users are free to move as they see fit. Reddit made a unilateral decision we didn’t like and now we’re all here, why is a Lemmy instance any different?

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          If you don’t like the Reddit change you’re free yo go… if you don’t like this you’re free to go.

          Yeah. I get it. It’s just so limiting. It’s not sold as “the forum where God like admins get to say exactly how things go an malleate at their willing”. Even forums had people do their own stuff without breaking or mass banning every 5 minutes.

          Your last point on “this is no different to reddit” is amazing. Yes. It’s different. Right now it’s worse. Less people who contributeless and destroy the shape and userbase of the network everytime they don’t fully get their way.

          It’s really looking worse. In subs, mods with power trips could be easily replaced. Here you need an account per instance and the subs get fractured.

          I thought it was just beehaw but holy hell the entitled attitude to not have to listen to any type of dissent ever. Don’t worry, you won’t be exposed to too many users. You’ll get your wish.