• SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz
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    3 days ago

    By the time you are livestreaming on twitch one would assume all caution regarding feeding the beast has long left the room and few fucks will be given.

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        3 days ago

        unfortunately feeding the beast was normalized long ago

        there was some resistance in the early 2000’s but we got lazy and want cheap flights, easy ways to pay for shit and real time maps so gave it all up for lolz

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          those didnt generate slop and steal from creators

          generative AI is different

          i think it can be useful in some situations but i think it should be trained ethically

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            There was no need to steal, people willing gave access into every facet of their lives from banking to socials to spotify.

            We were generating the slop and feeding it to the beast on a grand scale for decades, now the beast is vomiting all the slop back up.

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      No, “convenience” isn’t the problem: Enshittification isn’t caused by “lazy consumers.”

      Using Amazon, or Twitter, or Facebook, or Google, or Doordash, or Uber doesn’t make you lazy. Platform capitalism isn’t enshittifying because you made the wrong shopping choices.

      When [we] blame corporate power on “laziness,” we buy into the corporations’ own story about how they came to dominate our lives: we just prefer them. This is how Google explains away its 90% market-share in search: we just chose Google. But we didn’t, not really – Google spends tens of billions of dollars every single year buying up the search-box on every website, phone, and operating system:

      https://pluralistic.net/2024/02/21/im-feeling-unlucky/#not-up-to-the-task

      Blaming “laziness” for corporate dominance also buys into the monopolists’ claim that the only way to have convenient, easy-to-use services is to cede power to them. Facebook claims it’s literally impossible for you to carry on social relations with the people that matter to you without also letting them spy on you. When we criticize people for wanting to hang out online with the people they love, we send the message that they need to choose loneliness and isolation, or they will be complicit in monopoly.

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        16 hours ago

        Corey’s entertaining on the evangelical circuit but I’d be wary of reading those kinda shitposts as Gospels.

        Laziness still a factor methinks and people are often not that stupid ime, they know exactly what they are doing when they outsource social networking to meta or shopping to Jeff.

        We’ve been outsourcing effort since the oldowan and things got really bad in wake of writing, this is not new.

        The twitch thing seems a bit absurd where if streamers don’t consent the poor LLM’s will need to actually watch the drivel they are openly streaming for attention instead of getting it via API which will just waste more cpu cycles for lolz.

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        what’s the solution, then?

        i can see a somewhat clear path in moving people not off of social media, but to fairer platforms.