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      Does that matter to the people the UKR military kills in Iran and helps kill in Palestine?

      But no, the Ukranian people have not had a choice in anything since having their government surgically replaced in 2014, or for that matter since having their government illegally dissolved in 1991.

      My point with this specific post, as an olive branch to people who may not be familiar with the communist position, is not “Ukraine bad” so much as “This is what eventually happens to every American ‘ally’ no matter what promises have been made to the contrary, and other countries had best take notice”.

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        Yes American promises are why Russia invaded despite being signatories to a treaty guaranteeing Ukrainian sovereignty.

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            Excuses are great, still breaks a treaty.

            That sort of thing has a real cost in geopolitics.

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              Condescension aside, saying that in favor of the faction that kicked this off by breaking both Minsk Agreements is some crazy irony

              Anyway why did Russia cross the border, according to you?

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                Ukraine didn’t break the Minsk agreements and no reputable source claims they did.

                Russia invaded Ukraine because they fear neighbouring states that aren’t under Russia’s boot.

                If you were a communist you’d recognise that Russia is a totalitarian Oligarchy and a terrible place for the proletariat.

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                  That’s the best part. They’re communist in name only. Like China!

                  They can’t understand anything not told to them by propaganda outlets, don’t expect them to know history or reality.

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                    So true, bestie. When you completely make up nonsensical positions and assign them to people, completely unrelated to what they say or believe, those positions are indeed nonsensical!

                    That really tells us a lot about the world 🤓

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      ahh, yes, what else could they do when they’re being invaded other than committing genocide. poor ukronazis!

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        OK. So they should let Russia run their tanks through their towns and take over? What’s the take here?

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          i dunno you could try and fight against the invasion or whatever cia fairy tale you tell yourself to believe you’re not a nazi yet without supporting a literal nazi state? oh yeah, the ukronazis are also fascist bastards so that’s what they want.

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                  Good, so we agree that simply being invaded does not suddenly put a government on the right side of history.

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                After they started a world war and killed millions. Ever heard of the Holocaust?

                Not really a comparison.

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                  Ever heard of the ethnic cleansing of the Donbas? The fact that the UKR regime’s attempt at a Holocaust was stopped at “only” a few thousand ethnic Russians does not make them magically not Nazis, nor does it change the perscription.

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                    It is nonetheless cometely different than the juatification against Nazi Germany you made.

                    And the fact that you are doubleing down on that bad comparision shows how your post has seen any seld reflection.

                    Again, comparing WW2 against the attack of russia agains ukrain.