• partofthevoice@lemmy.zip
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    4 hours ago

    So when I see libs (liberals?) in reference to right-sided groups, that’s different than what the US calls “liberal” yea? Because I thought, in the US, the liberals were left. No?

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      3 hours ago

      Liberalism is inherently a right wing ideology. You have political liberalism which focuses on all these wholesome ideas like individual freedoms and democracy that are used to market it. But economic liberalism is the meat of the system and it centers around markets, private property, and wealth accumulation. So the whole idea that liberalism supports everyone’s freedom is fundamentally incompatible with enshrining private property rights as sacred because that removes them from political debate.

      Equating private property with individual freedom provides the foundational justification for the rich to keep their wealth while ignoring the needs of everyone else. So all the talk of freedom and democracy ends up being just a fig leaf for capitalist relations.

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      Liberals are the people who support/defend/upholds neo-liberalism/capitalism.

      So they are right wing.

      They are also conservative if you think about it, because if the status quo is neo-liberalism supporting it is opposing change.

      The so called conservatives are the ultra conservative.

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        I think a better label for the so-called “conservatives” is “regressives”. They don’t even want to preserve the status quo as it is, they want societal development to be rolled back 60-200 years depending on the issue