I just can’t, and sadly it’s worst in Linux community. Like dude’s face hair makes him look 45, but no, he does a desktop with a cringy looking 15 old anime girl. (That, on top of hiz annoyingly high pitched voice but whatever) I just stop watching the video on the spot, it’s beyond dumb.

The stupid NSFW tag on Lemmy? I turned it ON to occasionally see boobs, not some drawn pictures of underage kiddo, this pisses me off so much, JUST FCKING STAHP with this shit.

I have an impression suddenly, in a span of 2 years everyone started to jerk off on that bullshit and are proud to show it

  • shrugal@lemm.ee
    32·
    1 year ago

    Yea I hate that it’s a thing in anime. There are several shows that I liked, but had to stop watching when a recurring loli character entered the story. It’s just so wrong to look at children that way (drawn or not) imo, makes my skin crawl!

    • Astroturfed@lemmy.world
      10·
      1 year ago

      What, you don’t love the 13 year old princess that’s half the height of all the other characters and has anime tiddies that take up the entire screen?

    • Shapillon@lemmy.world
      2·
      1 year ago

      Hunter x Hunter was the only one that I read which kept it palatable imho since biscuit was never really sexualized.

      • trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world
        2·
        1 year ago

        HxH really does all the tropes better.

        Maybe it was cause when it was written the tropes weren’t so… hyper yet?

        Like, they did Kurapika crossdressing in Yorknew arc but they didn’t really do the trope in the modern way?

  • HipPriest@kbin.social
    31·
    1 year ago

    I don’t think this opinion is that unpopular - I don’t even like anime but still see these images pop up in memes and comics sometimes, with the laughable defence ‘yeah this highly sexualised picture of a (10-16) year old girl is actually a 900 year old in a child’s body so it doesn’t count’ or something.

    The term is lolicon I believe. The fact I know that makes me want to cringe.

  • snipgan@kbin.social
    25·
    1 year ago

    If you are talking about blatantly kiddie porn, then I absolutely agree with you.

    Though it is not a new trend, not particularly an unpopular opinion, or limited to just cringe.

    If it’s just cutsie or shortstack type character, then to each their own.

    Loli stuff has always been a black hole when it comes to any anime discussion, so I applaud your bravery in breaching the subject.

        • Fal@yiffit.net
          4·
          1 year ago

          sexual acts involving a child

          Which child is involved here exactly? Can you point them out?

          • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
            10·
            1 year ago

            Aren’t those anime girls specifically drawn to look like sexualized kids? Because if you’re attracted to such features, real or not, I have some news for you

            • Fal@yiffit.net
              1·
              1 year ago

              That’s the most absurd thing I’ve read. If we’re talking about photorealistic depictions of kids, sure, that might mean you’re a pedophile. I’m not saying no one who looks at loli shit is a pedophile. Of course I’m sure lots do. But what exactly do most anime lolis have in common with real kids. They’re small? Anything else? In most cases that we talk about in these stupid threads the only thing that differentiates whether a character is 12 or 22 is the artist saying what their age is.

              • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
                6·
                1 year ago

                The whole thing of those characters is that they look like kids. That’s the whole thing. And if you’re looking out material specifically for that reason, then guess what that makes you

                It’s not exactly rocket surgery.

                If we’re talking about photorealistic depictions of kids, sure, that might mean you’re a pedophile

                MIGHT

                ???

                • Fal@yiffit.net
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  Most likely. I could entertain reasons for looking at that without being attracted to it. But either way, it’s a drawing. I’m 100% fine with pedophiles looking at computer generated photorealistic images like that. Why would you be against that? Would you rather them look at two kids?

            • Fal@yiffit.net
              5·
              1 year ago

              So fantasizing about being raped doesn’t make you a rapist, but fantasizing about being a child makes you a pedophile?

              • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
                4·
                1 year ago

                Here’s the uncomfortable bit that follows from your analogy: fantasizing about rape does not make you a rapist, it means you have a fetish.

                Fantasizing about children does not make you a child abuser, it means you have a fetish.

                The uncomfortable part is that simply having that fetish makes people hate you, whether or not you actually abuse any children. If you have a rape fetish, people might think that’s weird but they wouldn’t be demanding your execution.

                Society draws no distinction between pedophiles and child abusers.

              • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
                2·
                1 year ago

                It’s the attraction that makes one a pedophile, yes. Your logic would be like if someone into the opposite sex claimed they weren’t straight (or bi) since they’ve never had sex.

  • AA5B@lemmy.world
    18·
    1 year ago

    If anime girls are just now becoming cringey in this community, I may need to reconsider going back to Reddit. Hasn’t the anime girl thing always been cringey? Or is Lemmy just more full of teenagers thinking this is cool?

  • Astroturfed@lemmy.world
    17·
    1 year ago

    This is definitely not an unpopular opinion. Except on lemmy maybe… there’s some weird ass shit on the NSFW instance. Like I try not to kink shame folks but hot damn is it weird sometimes. I got someone banned for reporting their degrading women/get back in the kitchen rape themed shit I stumbled on. People get way too comfy expressing their technically not illegal fetishes.

    • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
      24·
      1 year ago

      I don’t like murder and I don’t like soup. Somewhere between murder and soup is a line where it’s ok to judge the person doing it.

      So is drawn young porn more like murder or more like soup?

          • ttmrichter@lemmy.world
            8·
            1 year ago

            I’m absolutely, 100%, postively not on-side with paedophiles. But …

            In drawn porn … who are the victims precisely? I mean that’s the question:

            So is drawn young porn more like murder or more like soup?

            (Emphasis mine.)

            I’m tempted to turn the fantasy Internet point counters back on just to watch people who aren’t capable of reading comprehension hit the downvote button so hard it crashes the servers (all of them) … but nah, fuck that shit.

            • rbhfd@lemmy.world
              14·
              1 year ago

              The reason it’s problematic is that they indulge their attraction to kids.

              Not sure how many go from drawn CP to actual CSAM (I know, potential slippery slope fallacy), but they should be seeking professional help to deal with these urges.

              • ttmrichter@lemmy.world
                4·
                1 year ago

                I didn’t say it wasn’t problematic.

                I asked where the victims are in, specifically, drawn porn, given that the person I was responding to so histrionically said, and I quote:

                Except, you know… The victims

                What the fuck is wrong with you

                I fully agree that finding drawn paedophilia attractive is symptomatic of a huge problem. As I said in my opening sentence:

                I’m absolutely, 100%, postively not on-side with paedophiles.

                But to claim there’s victims in drawn pornography indicates either a serious deficiency in vocabulary or a serious deficiency in the capacity for thought in general.

                • rbhfd@lemmy.world
                  3·
                  1 year ago

                  Maybe it has the opposite effect, I’m not an expert at all.

                  If I had the urge to watch porn with drawn or AI generated kids, I would be worried about that though. If someone watches that without contemplating why, that’s problematic. If they do it as a coping mechanism, good for them, I guess.

                  I won’t shame anyone for their urges, how wrong they might be. You can’t decide what you want.

              • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
                1·
                1 year ago

                There IS no professional help, first of all. We’ve driven all the pedos underground.

                Secondly, this is just reefer madness all over again. “Gateway drug” bullshit.

        • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
          9·
          1 year ago

          TBH, I also find it creepy if people enjoy watching murder to fantasize about it… big red flag on those guys as well.

      • Fal@yiffit.net
        5·
        1 year ago

        The list of what exactly? Is it the same list of people who watch fictional representations of murder ( ie movies)?

        • mean_bean279@lemmy.world
          11·
          1 year ago

          I know you think that it sounds intelligent, but it’s not. People don’t watch movies to fulfill their desire to cause harm or violence. Murder porn is an actual thing and is also incredibly abhorrent to the same point. Pedo porn is specifically feeding a desire that should be helped or completely removed from society. It’s giving someone a dopamine hit for an effectively bad habit that over time can create a link that feels like either it doesn’t hurt anyone and moves to something more, or feeds a desire to do something in real life about it.

          Seek help, otherwise I hope you don’t get a chance to act on any urges.

          • Fal@yiffit.net
            2·
            1 year ago

            feeding a desire that should be helped or completely removed from society

            Just tell me you don’t know what you’re talking about. Being able to fulfill your desire without hurting anyone is the help. How can you not see that.

            It’s giving someone a dopamine hit for an effectively bad habit that over time can create a link that feels like either it doesn’t hurt anyone and moves to something more

            Gateway drug argument huh? How many times does this have to be disproved for you people to stop using it?

          • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
            2·
            1 year ago

            Pedo porn is specifically feeding a desire

            We’re not talking about pedo porn though. Any more than we’re talking about murder porn.

            Also, you “seek therapy” guys consistently fail to acknowledge that there is no therapy out there for pedophiles. We’ve driven them all into hiding.

    • LinyosT@sopuli.xyz
      10·
      1 year ago

      I mean that’s completely fair given the subject.

      Hope you enjoy being in a watch list, by the way.

  • ParsnipWitch@feddit.de
    17·
    1 year ago

    The amount of Lolis, “flat is justice” and moe hentai in any given community seems to be directly proportional to the amount of incels, red and otherwise “pilled” people. On a psychological level, I think it has to do with dehumanisation and also a sexual/romantic interest for a partner with less agency and a shallow character.

  • Jimbo@yiffit.net
    16·
    1 year ago

    Opinion: That you get so mad about this is cringe af. I don’t like seeing anime boobs and stuff on my nsfw lemmy browsing either. You know what I do? Block the community and move on.

  • blazera@kbin.social
    14·
    1 year ago

    Are we talking about hentai in general and you just always think its underage, or you specifically talking about underage hentai

  • lath@lemmy.world
    10·
    1 year ago

    These subjects are hard topics to discuss openly. It doesn’t help that when they are being “discussed” it usually ends up as a “it ain’t real” vs “shut up, scum” as it did here.

    It’s fear versus fear and it shows.

    “It ain’t real” - studies have shown that porn has affected the way people see relationships, often with unrealistic sexual expectations from themselves and their partners. Rationally, they could recognize how different reality is from what is shown in the media, yet unavoidably still felt a pang of disappointment from their expectations not being met.

    As a psychological example specifically, stalkers who build an idealized imaginary form of their favourite idol are known to become violent with rage when the idol in question does not meet their self-created expectations. Yes, one can say that the stalker fan had deep mental issues beforehand, and one would be wrong. They had slight mental issues beforehand that were multiplied by repeatedly reinforcing their self-indulged fantasies. A reinforced behaviour will cause the brain to normalize it over time.

    “shut up, scum” - studies have shown that vilifying those we fear or are prejudiced against will almost always create a sense of resentment in that individual or group that will have them act exactly as they are claimed to have acted without actual evidence. Retaliatory responses with the sole purpose of doing harm are the most common and factual type of act we humans have repeatedly shown the willingness to perform. There is no sense of a discussion here, only a demand to accept one point of view or face discrimination, shunning, shaming, legal and criminal consequences or isolation. By acting in fear, we bring our own monsters to life.

    As humans, knowledge defines us. We seek it, we are it. The constrains are self-imposed either from mutual agreement or authoritarian force. Which is why, in my opinion, we will never as a people reach consensus. Because before we are a society, we are individuals and as individuals, the knowledge we gain, accept and maintain over time is different from one another. And these differences will eventually come into conflict. At that time, in order to coexist, we make compromises with the precept to do no harm to one another, else there can be no peace between us.

    …

    OP is correct to be worried, but directs this worry at the wrong party. These people are victims of the failings of society and unless society itself can be changed, OPs worries will only create conflict if not thought out constructively. As it did in the comments. Be better OP. Your comfort in not seeing cringe drawings should be the least of your worries and instead focus on your discomfort in knowing you have brought the cringe here into your post instead. Read it and cringe.