All this conversation about #Meta on #Fedi feels like the worst parts of geek culture. So technical, without understanding context or what strikes can actually do. My thoughts:
Meta will make a great app for Fedi because it has more money to throw at the task. People will start using that because it's better. It will have QTs and an algorithm. People they want to follow will be there.
🧵1/6
Bit out of the loop - What’s Meta, and what’s its issue with joining Fediverse? I assume Meta isn’t the same as the company behind Facebook (if it is, why does it want to join Fediverse?)
That’s exactly the Meta we’re talking about. The most likely explanation is that Facebook wants to compete with Twitter and/or Bluesky and is planning build an app using the the ActivityPub protocol, which is what sites like Mastodon and Lemmy use to communicate with each other. Basically the idea seems to be that Instagram users will be able to communicate with the rest of the Fediverse.
Two weeks ago, it turned out a couple of mods of the larger instances had had secret (!) meetings with Meta. In a reaction, a group of instances decided to start a pact to preemptively block Meta.
These mods signed NDA’s in order to meet with Meta. This means they cannot share what was discussed. This is one of the reasons there are so many rumours about Meta’s plans and how these meetings fit in.
Fuck Facebook, but they kind of have to have those conversations under NDA. The rules on insider trading for publicly traded companies are strict, and you have to make sure conversations that impact your big picture strategy stay private and only become public through specific channels.
Yeah Meta is Facebook, the tl;dr is that it wants to use its “embrace extend extinguish” strategy to destroy the fediverse as we know it. That “How To Kill A Decentralised Network” article linked upthread explains how.
Bit out of the loop - What’s Meta, and what’s its issue with joining Fediverse? I assume Meta isn’t the same as the company behind Facebook (if it is, why does it want to join Fediverse?)
I found this to be a good explanation:
https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html
Thank you for the link, it explains a lot
That’s exactly the Meta we’re talking about. The most likely explanation is that Facebook wants to compete with Twitter and/or Bluesky and is planning build an app using the the ActivityPub protocol, which is what sites like Mastodon and Lemmy use to communicate with each other. Basically the idea seems to be that Instagram users will be able to communicate with the rest of the Fediverse.
Two weeks ago, it turned out a couple of mods of the larger instances had had secret (!) meetings with Meta. In a reaction, a group of instances decided to start a pact to preemptively block Meta.
Technically every meeting is secret if you don’t tell the public
These mods signed NDA’s in order to meet with Meta. This means they cannot share what was discussed. This is one of the reasons there are so many rumours about Meta’s plans and how these meetings fit in.
Fuck Facebook, but they kind of have to have those conversations under NDA. The rules on insider trading for publicly traded companies are strict, and you have to make sure conversations that impact your big picture strategy stay private and only become public through specific channels.
Yeah Meta is Facebook, the tl;dr is that it wants to use its “embrace extend extinguish” strategy to destroy the fediverse as we know it. That “How To Kill A Decentralised Network” article linked upthread explains how.
It is Facebook Meta. The why is harder. I guess they want a piece of the Reddit pie, or want to take over the fediverse.