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I’m not removing it. Not because the result of the poll is like that, but because I’m tired of being called a child abuser by people. Even if they are right or wrong. My apologies to those who think otherwise.
As you know, we’ve had a lot of drama about age in last days. And I’m so sorry to open a new one. I hope I don’t use the wrong word this time :)
You can see current rules below, which suggested by @throwawayforratings@lemmynsfw.com in here.
- 1: No sexual depictions of real people under the age of 18. Period.
- 2: No sexual artwork of fictional characters who are canonically under the age of 18. (eg, Sailor Moon, Rei Ayanami, Lisa Simpson, etc.) This includes “aged up” versions of such characters.
- 3: No sexual artwork of fictional characters who unambiguously appear under the age of 18, regardless of canonical age. This includes, but is not limited to, “3,000 year old dragon loli” type characters. The basis for this will be behavior and physical appearance. Admin/mod’s decision is final.
- 4: Sexual artwork of fictional characters with no canonical age and ambiguously youthful appearance is allowed, at admin/mod’s discretion.
The problem is rule 2. In the current hentai communities, if we look at canonical age, it’s around 30% underage. However, looking at the images, not all of these contents appear as underage. Check out some of the reports:
- https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/f421e2c6-12d3-4c88-b834-01a0a1bcd2d1.jpeg
- https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/967e8735-0996-4712-880f-799be80b7cd9.jpeg
- https://iili.io/H6Bp9v2.md.png
- https://iili.io/HPhp97n.jpg
- https://iili.io/H6CJPWP.png
These characters are all canonically underage, but only last one (and maybe 3th) looks underage. This makes moderation difficult. Anyway, I wanted to ask everyone because I’m very indecisive about this. IDK how Reddit handled these.
Do you think we should remove the 2nd rule and examine it under the 3rd rule or should the rule remain?
https://strawpoll.com/ajnEOA2PBZW
Also we’re looking for an admin
We are looking for someone who is especially knowledgeable about hentai, who can take care of this business regardless of the outcome of the decision. I sent an offer to @securitas@lemmynsfw.com regarding this. Looking for another admin too.
Frankly, I am digusted by the fact you’ll consider it.
Why do people look for a reason to be disgusted? Lots of people have messaged/posted about it. And I’m just asking this to the community. I don’t make any decisions on my own. Isn’t that democracy?
I honestly think the people complaining don’t understand the word ‘canonical’, causing a giant misunderstanding.
Case in point: @pm_me_upshorts@lemmynsfw.com said in another thread that he’s fine with characters as long as there’s no doubt about their age, yet here he claims everyone in favour of abolishing the rule is a pedo.
At this point, im sorry but, fuck who understands what. This is too frustrating.
Because if you’re going to allow child porn, because let’s be clear here thats what it is, you and everyone who makes that deciscion are disgusting people. Idk what’s so hard about “child porn bad.” But if you want to allow that material on your server and encourage child abusers and potential child abusers to feed their fantasies with it I suppose it’s your instance but you will be 100% in the wrong and committing an actual crime in some countries.
Just to be clear - you think a naked drawing of an adult Lisa Simpson is child porn? Because that’s what we’re discussing here.