What you’re saying is a good point, even if it’s being downvoted to hell. The shoehorned is the difference between say:
Snape and Dumbledoore supposedly being gay lovers despite it not being hinted at even once in the entire film’s chronology up to the point JKR said so.
Vs. Something like Modern Family where they came right out the door with Mitchell and Cameron being gay, and then used that as an actual story element throughout the series rather than just shoehorning it in to appeal to the LGBT crowd then never bringing it up again.
One feels like a tasteful, meaningful addition to the story, the other feels like a marketing gimmick.
You do understand that something can be both shoehorned in and a retcon right?
It is a retcon shoehorned into the lore to appeal to the LGBT market - and if anything is worse than that, because again this is never brought up in the main movies (not sure about the spin-offs). It’s literally just marketing.
Exactly, like in the Witcher they made the bard have a gay love scene even though it was not in any of the games or books. That scene was not needed, we knew he was a horny fella but the scene felt out of place.
I mean, I don’t know if he’s gay, but in Witcher 3 he made a drunken pass at a cross-dressing male elf, who rebuffed his advances and told Dandelion that he wasn’t into men. So…
This being said, I hate it when they crowbar that shit in. You can tell it’s not been written by a gay man, and often they really play to stereotype. Inevitably they make a character that is gay, rather than make an interesting character who is also gay.
Although, and let’s be honest here, the reality is that people complaining about gay characters are more often than not low-key homophobic.
What you’re saying is a good point, even if it’s being downvoted to hell. The shoehorned is the difference between say:
Snape and Dumbledoore supposedly being gay lovers despite it not being hinted at even once in the entire film’s chronology up to the point JKR said so.
Vs. Something like Modern Family where they came right out the door with Mitchell and Cameron being gay, and then used that as an actual story element throughout the series rather than just shoehorning it in to appeal to the LGBT crowd then never bringing it up again.
One feels like a tasteful, meaningful addition to the story, the other feels like a marketing gimmick.
The harry potter thing isn’t shoehorning if it was never originally in the story, that’s retconning
You do understand that something can be both shoehorned in and a retcon right?
It is a retcon shoehorned into the lore to appeal to the LGBT market - and if anything is worse than that, because again this is never brought up in the main movies (not sure about the spin-offs). It’s literally just marketing.
Exactly, like in the Witcher they made the bard have a gay love scene even though it was not in any of the games or books. That scene was not needed, we knew he was a horny fella but the scene felt out of place.
I mean, I don’t know if he’s gay, but in Witcher 3 he made a drunken pass at a cross-dressing male elf, who rebuffed his advances and told Dandelion that he wasn’t into men. So…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO7dTrOoO6Y
This being said, I hate it when they crowbar that shit in. You can tell it’s not been written by a gay man, and often they really play to stereotype. Inevitably they make a character that is gay, rather than make an interesting character who is also gay.
Although, and let’s be honest here, the reality is that people complaining about gay characters are more often than not low-key homophobic.
Jaskier (dandelion) did have some male partners, hinted at in 3 even with an elf in drag who is one of dandelions lovers.
Not something I found in the books, but it does seem to be in the games