• DaDragon@kbin.social
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        Well to be fully honest, freedom fighters and terrorists are the same thing, just from two perspectives. The average afghani villager probably won’t consider their current government terrorists, even if a large part of the western world does.

        One man’s terrrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.

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          An example of what you’re saying is the pkk in Turkey. Turkey calls them terrorists, while a lot of people still view them as a party fighting for freedom. But the pkk and it’s armed wing have never committed indiscriminate mass massacres of civilians. The endgoal of the pkk is also not the total destruction of the Turks, but rather the self determination of the Kurds.

          Hamas on the other hand has as endgame the total genocide of Jews and has no qualms in indiscriminately massacring civilians.

          About Hamas there is no nuance: they are genocidal terrorists.

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          Yes, those freedom fighters bravely raped and murdered a music festival full of people for the glory of Palestinian freedom.

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        I just took a look at the pinned article but didn’t see any pro Hamas tweets, just anti-zionist and pro Palestinian.

        Can you quote it for me, I admit I did kinda skim it.

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          *She posted on X on Oct 7, which now stands deleted, saying, “Can someone please tell the freedom fighters in Palestine to flip their phones and film horizontal.” She added "If you can look at the situation in Palestine and not be on the side of Pal…

          Read more at: https://www.deccanherald.com/world/mia-khalifa-shows-support-to-palestine-amid-crisis-with-israel-sparks-row-2721465*

          The posts were in the article I linked + the one above (might be the same one, I just googled another one that has the quotes - I’m on mobile, don’t expect too much ;)). She is not using the name of Hamas, but she is calling them "Palestinian freedom fighters. **It is by the timing that we know that she was talking about Hamas. **

          She made those posts shortly after the attacks, when social media was being filled with footage of Hamas. Hamas fighters post videos in portrait format of them gunning down civilians, Mia Khalifa posts shortly after and asks the “Palestinian freedom fighters” for videos in landscape format. So she called the terrorists who were indiscriminately killing civilians, freedom fighters, thereby tacitly supporting their actions. Strike 1.

          In a second follow up post, she states that one should always be on the side of Palestinians, implying that in her eyes the atrocities that were committed just hours before, were justified because they were committed by Palestinians. No nuance, exceptions or caveats, for her, anything done in the name of Palestinians against Israël is apparently justified, no matter how heinous. Strike 2.

          A 3rd post was about Palestinians tearing down their prison walls, which mostly just went to show how incredibly stupid and ignorant this woman is. It’s possible that she misunderstood the situation and thought that those terror attacks were the start of a bigger offensive with the aim of ending Palestine oppression.

          There are plenty of people who support fully liberating the west bank without applauding terror attacks against civilians, but she chose to start applauding right after the images of the terror attacks hit the media. It’s only much later that she started retracting her statements and proclaiming that she wasn’t talking about Hamas.

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      Pro-Palestine. One of her posts was ambiguous - "Can someone please tell the freedom fighters in Palestine to flip their phones and film horizontal.”

      The media propaganda machine was more than happy to pretend that was directed to Hamas, and then went on to fabricate that it was in reference to civilian executions, but it’s all 100% bullshit.

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        If at a time when terrorists of Hamas are releasing a ton videos of their terror attacks, you say "Can someone please tell the freedom fighters in Palestine to flip their phones and film horizontal.”, then you are calling those terrorists freedom fighters. And if you call terrorists freedom fighters, then you are tacitly supporting those terrorists and their acts of terror. Especially if you do this right after one of the most brutal attacks against civilians that we have seen in the last few years.

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          You can assume that’s what she meant, but you don’t actually know that - you’re just putting words into someone’s mouth. She even clarified later that’s exactly what she DIDN’T mean. This is also a time when Israel is bombing largely defenseless citizens. If you’re going to make assumptions about the intent of a statement, it’s also valid to assume she’s referring to this.

          Not every Palestinian is a member or supporter of Hamas, and not every person who fights for the freedom of the Palestinians is a member or supporter of Hamas.

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      Since she was joking about civilians executions, I think they were pro go fuck yourself mia

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        Since she was joking about civilians executions…

        Except she wasn’t. That’s the line the media is pushing but, if you actually read what she wrote -

        “Can someone please tell the freedom fighters in Palestine to flip their phones and film horizontal.”

        there’s no reference, direct or inferred, to Hamas or civilian executions. The propaganda machine is working overtime.

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            Here’s an article that slightly better explains the situation.

            She wrote…

            “I just want to make it clear that this statement in no way shape or form is enticing spread of violence, I specifically said freedom fighters because that’s what the Palestinian citizens are… fighting for freedom every day.”

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          When referring to execution videos then yes, you’re a dick when saying that.

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            I’ll never understand why people like you seem to practically fall over themselves, making things up to justify being upset at situations. You’re all bizarre.

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        Anyone that gets their geopolitical opinions from a pornstar has some serious self reflecting to do. Firing her, or leaving her employeed, will make little difference in the world.

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          I don’t think this was about her opinions as much as it was about here shitty taste of humor.