Generally true but I will say, there’s a concerning amount of astroturfing going around on eg. sh.itjust.works about how iMporTanT it iS to let tHe hatErs sPeaK. The place seems to be going full ‘nazi bar’ very quickly. It doesn’t matter how tankie the original devs are, we still need to be wary of our spaces. If there’s one thing the alt right has proven effective at out of all their massive incompetences, it’s turning social spaces online into shit holes.
I think that’s kind of a weird way to see it. For the most part the fediverse will likely be a large group of general purpose instances that eschew a few assholes on the fringes.
Right now we’re facing issues because people are turning up their noses at the idea of wanting to eschew assholes on the fringes.
Its a consequence of a federated system and forum drama, the same thing happened with usenet. You had providers that only provided a subset, if you went to all the “big names” you got the same “approved” list of groups, you would have to pull from elsewhere as a new user if you wanted to interact on content your ISP blocked you from.
Blocks were all for the same reasons we are doing them now, and what happened was the content did not go away, those users did not stop posting thier stuff, they kept going, in thier bubble, the rest of us would not generally see it. This is why I say it will break on lines, likely the same as lines as ever.
I think the point there was not that there wouldn’t be divisions, but that it was going to be extremely unequal. Your term “break on lines” sounds like “we are going to split into equal-sized sovereign nations along opinion lines,” when it’s really going to be one main group, with the extremists flaking off into their own little private dumpsters.
that’s people injecting ideals that aren’t really reflective of what usually happens and putting words in my mouth. the lines are usually the “majority” or “powerbrokers” deciding some some groups are unacceptable. The protocol does not ban these people from using the software, just from being generally a part of the majority network.
There are already divisions based on language in-built. There are many divisions on reddit too (the domain name is just a name) and Expect similar divisions here as has occurred on every system since CompuServe.
Generally true but I will say, there’s a concerning amount of astroturfing going around on eg. sh.itjust.works about how iMporTanT it iS to let tHe hatErs sPeaK. The place seems to be going full ‘nazi bar’ very quickly. It doesn’t matter how tankie the original devs are, we still need to be wary of our spaces. If there’s one thing the alt right has proven effective at out of all their massive incompetences, it’s turning social spaces online into shit holes.
the fediverse will splinter on lines, starting to see running your own instance more like running a usenet client.
I think that’s kind of a weird way to see it. For the most part the fediverse will likely be a large group of general purpose instances that eschew a few assholes on the fringes.
Right now we’re facing issues because people are turning up their noses at the idea of wanting to eschew assholes on the fringes.
Its a consequence of a federated system and forum drama, the same thing happened with usenet. You had providers that only provided a subset, if you went to all the “big names” you got the same “approved” list of groups, you would have to pull from elsewhere as a new user if you wanted to interact on content your ISP blocked you from.
Blocks were all for the same reasons we are doing them now, and what happened was the content did not go away, those users did not stop posting thier stuff, they kept going, in thier bubble, the rest of us would not generally see it. This is why I say it will break on lines, likely the same as lines as ever.
I think the point there was not that there wouldn’t be divisions, but that it was going to be extremely unequal. Your term “break on lines” sounds like “we are going to split into equal-sized sovereign nations along opinion lines,” when it’s really going to be one main group, with the extremists flaking off into their own little private dumpsters.
that’s people injecting ideals that aren’t really reflective of what usually happens and putting words in my mouth. the lines are usually the “majority” or “powerbrokers” deciding some some groups are unacceptable. The protocol does not ban these people from using the software, just from being generally a part of the majority network.
There are already divisions based on language in-built. There are many divisions on reddit too (the domain name is just a name) and Expect similar divisions here as has occurred on every system since CompuServe.