• sgt_w@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Apple fans, please stop being in denial regarding this. The Snapdragon wins, and is technically already on a device. A17 PRO was released only a month ago, so the comparison is totally valid. I have a 15 Pro Max and a Mac Studio, so if anything, I am very Apple biased. Truth hurts.

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      1 year ago

      Truth hurts? The only people who will be bothered by this are only the hardcore nerds on reddit and twitter. For most of us, it’s all about battery efficiency PPW.

      There has been relatively little innovation from Apple on mobile chips the last 2-3 years, so any competition is great. Yes, I’m aware that making a chip us hard, I just mean that performance from Apple has stagnated, primarily because they have had such a gargantuan lead the last 3 years or so, that there was no need. Hopefully this pushes Apple to make huge improvements in either A18 or A19.

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      1 year ago

      Cool. Apple now gets to fire back. That’s the game here but it between arm and arm neither being intel or amd and I so here for it. Good night intel and amd.

      • Put_It_All_On_Blck@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        That’s an ignorant comment of the situation.

        Apple is on a slightly better node than Qualcomm, there is no firing back anytime soon unless Apple pulls a rabbit out of their hat with insane architecture improvements, which is unlikely considering a lot of Apples best SoC engineers left the company years ago, hence the situation they are in now. They could spend more on larger dies, but that will eat into their margins.

        Similarly one of the biggest reasons the M1 was so good compared to Intel and AMD back in 2020, was because Apple was and is buying the best nodes. With TSMC shitting the bed, those node handicaps will shrink for x86 just like they did for Qualcomm. If Intel surpasses TSMC with 18A in 2024, like many analysts expect, then it’s a role reversal where Intel finally has a node advantage after 10 years of trying to compete with a disadvantage. Plus Windows on Arm is an awful experience. Unlike Apple’s transition to Arm, where they got developers to support it and Rosetta 2 is pretty good, Microsoft has failed for over a decade to get Windows on Arm to be an equal to x86-x64 Windows.

        I don’t really see any of this changing sales at all. If you want iOS you buy an iPhone. If you want Android, you’re probably getting Qualcomm. If you want Windows it’s 80% Intel and Nvidia and 20% AMD. The benchmark leaders may change, but that won’t convert people to Android or WoA, just like Apples silicon didn’t convert people to iOS or Mac.