Since October 7, more than 3,257 children have been reported killed, including at least 3,195 in Gaza, 33 in the West Bank, and 29 in Israel, according to the Ministries of Health in Gaza and Israel respectively. The number of children reported killed in just three weeks in Gaza is more than the number killed in armed conflict globally – across more than 20 countries – over the course of a whole year, for the last three years.

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    If Hamas stopped hording all the food and supplies then the bombs and settlers couldn’t have killed these defenseless children. /s

    Unironically, fuck Hamas, but this wholesale murder of children deserves the title of terrorist state to be shared by Israel. If you support Israel you support the continued murder of children. FULL STOP.

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      It is crazy how you have people behind Hamas or even stating both sides are “equally bad”.

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        You’re right. With the numbers presented here, Israel is definitely acting worse right now.

        These two groups of people are at war. One of them are using guerrilla terrorist tactics to kill civilians, and the other is using their political sway and superior firepower to commit genocide.

        There is no “equally bad”, but if you support the eradication of either side, you are a horrible person in my eyes.

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          Is there somewhere where I can read a bias free summary of this? I know it’s been going for ages and I know Israel is known to use propaganda (like everyone else).

          There’s plenty of bad on both sides and I’m just lost. My personal history wants to root for freedom fighters but this sounds way worse than what my father and grandfather had to go through.

          I’m spit. I wish someone could convince me kids weren’t being slaughtered, civilians beheaded and raped… But I can’t stomach those actions and give it a pass. When violence is the only action left, it doesn’t warrant any and all types of violence. It’s just fucked and I lost hope of getting a clear picture.

          To clarify, not defending actions of Israel either. In case there were some doubts if I approve of genocide or not.

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            I can’t stomach what Hamas had done too, really horrific what they did to those people. There is no excuse for that. So you can condemn them for that.

            On the other side you can also condemn Israel for its response right now, because they’re actually doing the same thing by bombing civilians indiscriminately. At this point, I’d rather have them go into those effing tunnels and fight their real enemy instead of civilians.

            You don’t have to be for or against something and it’s okay to be split on this subject. Most people are.

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              What do you mean “right now”? Do you know how long Israel has been an oppresive apartheid state for?

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            I would start by looking into how the Israeli state was formed in 1948. More specifically look up the Nakba. That will give you context for everything that comes after.

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          Sometimes I do wish to see what would the death and destruction look like if Israel actually did not care about civilians and did all the things people here describe them doing. Luckily that will never happen, and Israel will continue to care about the safety of their own citizens, as well as the safety of the Palestinians Hamas is hiding behind to a much greater degree than Hamas ever cared for a human soul.

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            So you wish you could be more out and open with the genocide sometimes just to show the haters? That doesn’t sound healthy.

            “You don’t even know how many we could be murdering!” said the supporter of the country whose people had previously suffered an unspeakable genocide.

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              No, I wish people like you spreading hate would stop ignoring the inconvenient facts instead of focusing purely at the numbers.

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                No, I wish people like you spreading hate would stop ignoring the inconvenient facts instead of focusing purely at the numbers.

                Oh those inconvenient facts that make Israel look an awful lot like the monsters they ran from a few decades ago… we seem to not be ignoring them very much, dunno what you are talking about.

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                  I’m talking about inconvenient facts like Hamas hiding an entire compound under a hospital. How Israel is sending out warnings in 5 different ways before striking any target. How Hamas has been firing rockets at Israel civilian centers constantly. How Hamas has all these supplies stored up, yet people are starving. How truck after truck of aid, building supplies, and life necessities go into Gaza, yet mysteriously nothing gets better there.

                  No, none of that is ever mentioned. Instead you hear people parroting how Israel is “carpet bombing” Gaza, targeting civilians, and “trying to genocide Palestinians”. Under the same breathe they wonder why the Israeli government ignores them after hearing this bullshit.

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            Sorry, but Israel had the support of the entire world, even Muslims, and lost it within a week. Nobody to blame but themselves. They thought it was a blank cheque to just start killing anything and everything that moves.

            If Israel cares so much, just go into the tunnels and fight your real enemies, you know where they are. Nope, they’re just cowards at this point.

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              If Israel cares so much, just go into the tunnels and fight your real enemies, you know where they are. Nope, they’re just cowards at this point.

              Oh yes, just send soldiers into the cramped enemy spaces. Sounds like a genius tactical maneuver.

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                But with your perfect army and perfect tech and perfect iron Dome, why not? They’re just animals and the hostages were dead the moment they crossed the border right? Right?

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        It is crazy how you have people behind Hamas Israel or even stating both sides are “equally bad”.

        Funny how it works still…