Snapshot of Eurozone inflation falls to 5.5% in sharp contrast to UK. Economists put reason for divergence down to Brexit and Britain’s energy price guarantee.
Snapshot of Eurozone inflation falls to 5.5% in sharp contrast to UK. Economists put reason for divergence down to Brexit and Britain’s energy price guarantee.
The CAP has been reformed more than once and we were big players, most of the regulation UK gov wanted they got.
Vetos have been a problem wrt to foreign policy you are right, and there are talks about moving that to QMV as well. I don’t think vetos apply to CAP though, I believe that’s all QMV and has been since Lisbon.
As far as your examples, I think those are both fantastic examples of accountability on the part of the EU, in the first case they’ve commissioned a proper audit of the spending and the effectiveness of that spending, and now know what to address to make future spending more effective. wish our government did shit like that.
In the second case, all those people were investigated and arrested and are in court now, further they were voted out of their positions too, again something I wish our government would do.
You are doing a great job of making me even more sure I am right about this than I was before tbh with you.
The CAP has not been reformed successfully, you’re confusing task with goal
Wow, if you think wasting 66b is a sign of good governance, you’re lost pal
The CAP is controlled by the lobbyists, and backed by the big growing countries, always has been. It’s got nothing to do with protecting biodiversity and all to do with profit
https://www.politico.eu/article/copa-cogeca-farmering-lobby-europe/
Lol, those are the ones that got caught. Man, you are naive as hell
Why do you think there are over 25k lobbyists in Brussels? For the beer and chips?
You’ve added that qualifier not me, depends how you define success doesn’t it. My point was that things can and do change.
Heh, you know, I knew you were going to come back with this so I already have my answer to it.
Yes 66bn certainly does sound like a lot of money to waste, over a period of 8 years and between 28 countries.
Makes me wonder why you are not so bothered about the 200bn that this country has spent on this Brexit project, all on it’s own in the same time frame.
Oh right… so now you’re pointing to the corruption that you can’t prove exists?
Let me ask you this, what do you make of the blatant clear corruption in this country? specifically all of the pork barrel money related to Brexit like the Tees port scandal for example?
I’d like to think you’ll be just as scathing, but somehow it seems like any cost associated with Brexit is worth it for some reason, even though you can’t even tell me specifically what that reason is, much less prove it’s a valid one. I wish I could say this was the first conversation I’ve had with somebody with Brexititus related Brexit blindness but when you get down to it, you’re all remarkably similar.
Lol, you are like most remain voters I encounter, you like the idea of the EU, but don’t actually know anything about it. Of the 3 current federations, which one would you like the EU to become? Russia? China? USA?
Ok. Let’s do some simple maths re wasted money
66b wasted plus 66b opportunity cost plus 66b to redo the work that was meant to have been done. That’s 198b… And that assumes biodiversity hasn’t got worse, which it has, so it will cost more. Why do you defend failure?
And no, the UK hasn’t spent 200b on brexit. You are demonstrating stunning levels of economic illiteracy now.
When I present you evidence of EU incompetence and corruption, you claim this as evidence of competence and purity. 😂
How about UVL and her disappearing texts?
https://www.politico.eu/article/new-york-times-sue-european-union-ursula-von-der-leyen-pfizer-texts/
And no, I won’t defend yet another power structure, I’m not a nationalist, I think all politicians have the opportunity to be corrupt, I don’t think that them being in Westminster or Brussels makes a blind bit of difference. You just prefer corruption with a nice accent and better coffee 😂.
undefined> Lol, you are like most remain voters I encounter, you like the idea of the EU, but don’t actually know anything about it. Of the 3 current federations, which one would you like the EU to become? Russia? China? USA?
Mate one of the first posts you made on this contained 2 factually incorrect statements and none of your links have backed up your claims.
If me pointing this out makes me a typical remain voter, well I suppose that shows just how much more informed we are than you typically Brexit blind types.
Oh well in that case, £200 bn lost, plus 200bn to re do all that work when we do eventually join and then another eleventy billion for things I made up just like you.
OBR says otherwise.
You’ve already demonstrated you’re willing to make incorrect statements (charitable) and unsupported claims, bit rich to be saying anything about others literacy.
I never said that though.
I said
’ I think those are both fantastic examples of accountability’ which is an entirely different statment
Do you always make up these straw men to knock down,do you think putting words in your debate opponents mouth is a god way to argue? You are simply incapable of responding to the actual point that’s been stated or something?
You voted for fucking Brexit mate, and you’re defending it. If you aren’t a nationalist, you’re in bed getting fleas off them.
Honestly, you ‘lexiters’ are more deluded than the most red faced sun reading UKIPers.
https://www.farminguk.com/news/world-s-largest-vertical-farm-set-to-open-in-norfolk_61380.html
Your Google fu sucks as does your critical thinking skills
Again, the UK has not spent 200b, source?
Yes, I did vote for it. Very happy with it. Guess it just sucks to be you
Sure, the OBR says 4% GDP loss per year.
3.1 trillion per year GDP, let’s make it 5% just to make it easy
150 billion per year, x 2+ years, it’s well over 200bn.
Bloomberg also agrees
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-31/brexit-is-costing-the-uk-100-billion-a-year-in-lost-output
So, you going to accept this fact then? or is it going to be fingers in ears?
What is this supposed to prove?
I’m saying, they have 2 of the largest companies in the world you’ve pointed to a company with 34 employees and 2 farms (1 in construction) In farm in Germany has 422 employees (source linkedin for both) so it’s 10 times as big a company as the one you linked.
Haha, yeah I can tell, you won’t accept reality, you can’t accept you’ve made a huge mistake, you can’t handle the truth!
Like I said, you’re all remarkably gullible, I mean similar.
Lol, the OBR said 4% of GDP per CAPITA OVER 15 YEARS
LOL, YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT 😂😂😂😂
Mate, firstly.
Calm down.
Secondly, you’re wrong, it is GDP not GDP per capita and it is at least 200bn.
These are facts, accept the facts.
Yet again I go to read your link to see what you are talking about and yet again it’s not what you say.
Okay so the NYT wants to read the texts, how does that show evidence of ‘corruption’?
I mean, maybe we will see them and something will be uncovered, but as of right now you have nothing. If she’s corrupt then I hope they throw the book at her. You’ve not provided any evidence for your claim though. Again.
She has a habit of doing deals over texts that mysteriously disappear
https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/corruption-scandal-hangs-over-eu-president-ursula-von-der-leyen-33871
Oh yeah, Turkish state media site that doesn’t even load and talks about Breitbart’s opinion, cracking source. Yeah, that I won’t accept, give me a reputable source.
You are literally googling for any old shit to support your nonsensical position.
Find your own sources
https://www.politico.eu/article/the-scandal-hanging-over-ursula-von-der-leyen/
And kindly fuck off now, you’re boring
Firstly, no need for insults.
I’m debating you in good faith, and I am smashing you to bits quite frankly and it’s not even difficult, it’s easy. Respond with better arguments and stop lying to yourself and you may be less upset.
Secondly, again that story is not what you said it is. It’s allegations and it’s not even EU related it’s from back when she was German defence minister.
Now I already told you, I don’t agree with corruption, I’d throw the book at her if there’s any truth to it and it were down to me.
Any institution over time will have examples of corruption, from the top right down to local councils and the church raffle. It’s a very human problem that occurs everywhere. The important thing is how you deal with it, and as far as I can see the first case they dealt with it very well (arrests and prosecutions) and in the second case that’s clearly something for the German government to do something about.
Then I look at the UK, these idiots you voted to give all the power too, day after day there are stories and evidence about corruption on absolutely incredible scale, literally billions stolen, 200 billion at least wasted on this pile of shit…