Wow. Mad Respect to MKBHD for pulling the cancel order and sticking with his 16inch M1 Max Macbook Pro.
BTW I am also still enjoying my 16inch M1 Max 64GB 4TB Macbook Pro, a still fantastically powerful computer… but I cant easily afford to upgrade to the M3 Max… MKBHD certainly can, yet he chose not to.
Respect.
Can we stop putting influencers on a pedestal please? Thanks.
You can game on it, but you wouldn’t buy this laptop for gaming unless you had more money than sense.
Nope, but for instance I bought a Zephyrus G14 twice (2020 model, 2023 model) because it’s a good compromise of size, portability, battery life, work performance and gaming performance. If many more games were available on Macs, they would be a worthy alternative (Probably still not because they are super duper expensive lol)
There’s people who would buy a more advanced version (e.g. M3 Pro instead of M3, etc.) for gaming. Many people want MacBooks for work, but also like to game, and buying two separate computers is annoying. I have two separate computers because I am in that category so in theory it sounds pretty cool to be gaming on my Mac in the future. But to give up my Windows gaming PC I would want at least 80% of the games I want to play to be available on Mac. That is a long journey
That’s me.
A M3 Max covers everything I need (work, EMR, imaging) and has enough grunt for some games.
But I still need to lug around a Windows gaming laptop to, well, play the games.
Right now I carry a 4070 X16 and IPad Pro. Both environments covered. Minimal bulk.
I’d like Apple to take shit more seriously and at a serious price point.
exactly
I bought the same maxed out MBP as Marques and I’m looking forward to being able to play BG3 and other games on it, but it’s hardly my priority
Um, have you looked at the market for gaming PC’s? Plenty of people with plenty of money who are plenty willing to spend it on a gaming machine. They may not be buying it for gaming just yet. But Apple is absolutely aware this group exists.
Just let us dual boot Windows ARM. The performance is decent enough thru a VM it’d be great to just do that without virtualization. Make it a selling point because if the next macbook pro can’t do it I won’t be buying it when my M1 pro eventually goes
none of the shit you want to run actually runs on Windows ARM, e.g. pro applications, games etc.
Is there really a lot of people that care about ARM Windows? Last I heard it was pretty garbage.
it runs amazing, the only real problem is if drivers for something aren’t available in arm it will not run (obviously). So I have a HASP dongle that is causing me great headache. But as far as an OS it works just as well possibly even better as the X86 version of windows 11 I have on a desktop with a 13900k in it vs my M1 Max MBP.
It runs well enough for me, been using it in VM’s with not many issues at all. I think Windows ARM being bad is more due to there being next to no ARM products with Windows on it so it just hasn’t been prioritized.
But that will continue to improve in the future as more products get released I’m sure.
Of course you can… just use an LG OLED and keep a PS5 nearby 😉
Even some of the biggest games from Valve don’t support MacOS (see Counterstrike 2), so why isn’t Apple trying to get more developers to support Mac yet?
Source: https://steamcommunity.com/faqs/steam-help/view/5ED2-ED8E-81F4-0C18#macos
I imagine anticheat in general is a problem to implement on macOS which is much less tolerant of kernel fuckery than Windows
The problem is that developers don’t develop for Mac because they would sell extremely less than the Windows version. It’s a dog eating its tail, people don’t buy Macs because they cost too much and there are no games, so developers don’t develop. The only way to break the cycle would be for Apple to start selling high-performance Macs for €800, and for high-performance Macs I mean Macs with GPUs comparable to a 4060 at least, after all, counterparts can be found at that price with these specifications.
I can’t take MKBHD serious as a reviewer, he’s always way to forgiving towards apple so he stays on their good list and gets invited to events.
All of r/apple: DUUHHHH YA CANT PLAY A GAME ON NUFIN BUT A WINDERS PEE SEE
Space black is marketing …it is not as black as space! It is within the Apple family of "space " colours!
It is space dark grey
as much as i (and i suspect everyone) understand this on one level, it didn’t make it any less enticing at first, but i am really glad that he made a point of mentioning and demonstrating it because it totally brought me back to reality when i was drifting away into “must have space black m3 max now” territory. the other thing that would have disappointed me had he not mentioned it here first is that the cord is black but the brick is white… nothing screams ‘marketing ploy’ to me more than that small detail. at these prices they could at least throw in a black brick. fully commit to the grift. just sayin
I’m very conflicted about this new machine. I buy a maxed out mac each time because it’s my primary machine and I want it to do anything I throw at it even if I mostly don’t use all its power. And I do game on my computer; I currently have a 2019 intel and I just pop over to windows when I want to play something that doesn’t work on macOS.
I’m hoping that crossover and VMware/parallels will be enough for now until windows for arm comes out but I’m also wondering if I should just cancel the order and get a gaming pc. I just hate gaming pcs though—I don’t want my computer to look like a Christmas tree. I wish someone made a computer physically like the MacBook Pro but with gaming specs inside.
My computer doesn’t come till the end of the month and we’re in the holiday return period. I’ll play with it and decide if I want to return it or not.
I just use GeForce Now ($20/mo) on MacOS and I don’t need to keep up with a gaming PC.
Have you found GeForce now to be the best game streaming service?
I haven’t really tried any others but it works great on MacOS. Also I have a PS5 and remote play on MacOS also works great (in fact better than Windows since your controller can be wireless).
I used to like this guy’s videos a lot but he sucks at reviewing tech now. Too focused on production quality and not on actual testing or reviewing of the gadget
Its never been about some advanced level review like Gamers Nexus. He’s always been about his perspective on tech and production quality.
This was a pretty stripped down review. Not sure what you mean by production quality, at least this video.
But he’s always been about giving you his perspective as a user, and showing the features, not throwing out every benchmark that doesn’t really capture (at least his} day to day use.
For that you can find other reviewers like Dave2D, Miani, Max Tech, or iPhonedo.
I like this style, honestly, when considering products to buy. Sometimes, 'I used the product and got X hours of battery, without the unit getting hot," from a reputable source, is all I’m looking for.
YES YOU CAN GAME on a 4k laptop, insane right
