I hate moving windows around.
All windows open maximized without window decorations. Meta+WSAD moves the active window to the upper/lower/left/right half of the screen.
Meta+PgDown minimizes, Meta+PgUp maximizes. Meta+Q tiles windows horizontally, Meta+E vertically. Meta+X closes the window, Meta+Spacebar shows the desktop, Meta alone shows the workspace overview.
Fuck hunting for window borders, clicking and dragging. And fuck configuring all this in a text file.
No. I need the functionality of a full desktop environment.
And KDE’s workspace overview is awesome. One keypress and I see all open windows, all workspaces and a global search field that switches to a program when it already has an open window and opens a new window if not.
And a tiling WM on top of KDE would be pointless to me since the behavior of a tiling WM can be configured through the GUI in KDE without installing anything extra.
Yeah I also use KDE on my desktop, though I have my laptop running QTile because the tile hotkeys are much more convinient than navigating with the trackpad.
Sure, but that’s not the only benefit to having full control over the entire tiling interface. I enjoy building out the features and visuals I want in python. It’s fun to have that level of control.
I’m not familiar with sway or hyprland, but KDE automatically finds and configures any modern scanner and printer in the network, makes all programs use the same theme, saves my passwords and certificates, auto-mounts attached drives, auto-starts programs and services, handles which program opens which file type, has a nice workspace overview, lets me configure the firewall, grub, bootsplash screen, VPN, network settings, monitors, keyboard layout, etc… all with sane defaults out of the box, localized to my language, and easy GUI configuration.
For what it’s worth, a large number of the things you listed are actually portable into Sway, i3wm, and a lot of other tiling wms just by way of running the KDE settings daemons - I do the same kinds of things (network printer, theming, auto-mount, auto-start, XDG config, firewall, vpn, network settings, monitors, keyboard layout) just by having i3wm start up xfce-settings-daemon.
I’m not familiar enough with KDE to make promises about grub and splash, but I would imagine those would also work exactly the same as well. In fact, a little bit of searching and it looks like if you’re on Wayland you could even just replace KWin (the KDE window manager) with Sway in the startup files and be 95% of the way there. Might just need to configure a system bar or something to that effect.
I hate moving windows around.
All windows open maximized without window decorations. Meta+WSAD moves the active window to the upper/lower/left/right half of the screen.
Meta+PgDown minimizes, Meta+PgUp maximizes. Meta+Q tiles windows horizontally, Meta+E vertically. Meta+X closes the window, Meta+Spacebar shows the desktop, Meta alone shows the workspace overview.
Fuck hunting for window borders, clicking and dragging. And fuck configuring all this in a text file.
(I use OpenSUSE with KDE by the way)
Ever considered trying out a tiling window manager?
I3 baby
No. I need the functionality of a full desktop environment.
And KDE’s workspace overview is awesome. One keypress and I see all open windows, all workspaces and a global search field that switches to a program when it already has an open window and opens a new window if not.
And a tiling WM on top of KDE would be pointless to me since the behavior of a tiling WM can be configured through the GUI in KDE without installing anything extra.
Yeah I also use KDE on my desktop, though I have my laptop running QTile because the tile hotkeys are much more convinient than navigating with the trackpad.
You can freely configure tiling and any hotkeys in KDE as well.
Sure, but that’s not the only benefit to having full control over the entire tiling interface. I enjoy building out the features and visuals I want in python. It’s fun to have that level of control.
I respect that, but I have different hobbies.
lol totally fair
What kde provides that sway or hyprland don’t?
I’m not familiar with sway or hyprland, but KDE automatically finds and configures any modern scanner and printer in the network, makes all programs use the same theme, saves my passwords and certificates, auto-mounts attached drives, auto-starts programs and services, handles which program opens which file type, has a nice workspace overview, lets me configure the firewall, grub, bootsplash screen, VPN, network settings, monitors, keyboard layout, etc… all with sane defaults out of the box, localized to my language, and easy GUI configuration.
For what it’s worth, a large number of the things you listed are actually portable into Sway, i3wm, and a lot of other tiling wms just by way of running the KDE settings daemons - I do the same kinds of things (network printer, theming, auto-mount, auto-start, XDG config, firewall, vpn, network settings, monitors, keyboard layout) just by having i3wm start up
xfce-settings-daemon.I’m not familiar enough with KDE to make promises about grub and splash, but I would imagine those would also work exactly the same as well. In fact, a little bit of searching and it looks like if you’re on Wayland you could even just replace KWin (the KDE window manager) with Sway in the startup files and be 95% of the way there. Might just need to configure a system bar or something to that effect.
kwin supports a tiling mode which it sounds like they’re already using, so … yes?
Gnome with forge is a good time