pls dont kill me…

im just curious, in 2023 what exactly does ios have over android.

the only two things i can think of is the longer support and apple ecosystem.

otherwise androids just have far far more features than ios does.

can anyone help me understand if theres more to it or if thats it.

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    1 year ago

    Having jumped to iOS this year (15 pro). There’s only a few things that I see making a difference.

    - Ecosytem (macbook stuff is nice but, at least for me, nothing extraordinary)
    - You can tell apps are developed with iOS in mind first
    - Resale value?
    - Besides that, experience has been basically the same and I haven’t had that “wow amazing” moment so far

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      1 year ago

      You can tell apps are developed with iOS in mind first

      what all things in the app make it better in iphone compared to an android?

      also what android did u jumpship from and how is the stability in the iphone compared to the android

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    1 year ago

    OP, are you asking about under the hood stuff or things like @apprehensive_view614 mentioned?

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    1 year ago

    This is not a scientific result, but when I’ve seen friends / family with modern-looking android devices, the UI seems laggy or unresponsive compared to my experience on iOS. They often have to try 2 or 3 times to get the swipe / tap they were after. I find iOS pretty much always does what I’m expecting, and even when it doesn’t, I can put it down to me missing the edge of the screen / icon.

    I’m curious what ‘features’ I’m missing by sticking with iOS though?

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    1 year ago

    ios is more classy and looks high quality . and in a lot of countries outside us and Europe it determines your worth

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    1 year ago

    It’s a hardware thing not IOS but Face ID is miles ahead of any Android alternative. Like it’s so much better there is no comparison.

    Source: made the switch to iPhone this fall, after 13 years of Androids.

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      Pretty much this… I still use my Galaxy phones when traveling but because of some weird finger-tip or fingerprint issues, it’s really inconsistent when needing to unlock my phone by Touch. FaceID is a game changer for me personally.

      I miss from Android the customization options with the UI and the ability to run whatever third party app I want…

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      And in practice, FaceID is utterly unnecessary especially considering they implemented it by sticking a giant pill shaped void right inside your display. Also, fingerprint is probably even more secure. On my Note9, it’s instantaneous and I don’t have a freaking hole inside my screen, just beautiful screen real estate with no obstructions. If you think FaceID is so secure, have a look: https://youtu.be/bLY5APBo4aU?si=u03jBshibWGHg4Iz

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      1 year ago

      I can’t be the only one who hates face ID. I wouldn’t mind it if Apple added a touch id somewhere :/ I love the touch id on my Samsung AND I can use my face to unlock my phone as well. I like having the choice rather than be forced to use one over the other 🤷

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        I have never liked FaceID. Feels like a downgrade to me. After how many years, I still find it to be a poor user experience. Waking phone with the same button used to authenticate fingerprint is a far superior experience.

        I could see FaceID making sense on a desktop. Not a great experience on a phone. Far less smooth than fingerprint readers.

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          It makes no sense to only have face ID or a min 6 number passcode. I borrowed my boyfriends iPhone for 2 weeks and absolutely hated face ID. I love using my phone while lying down, it was annoying having to sit up just to unlock my phone and get into some apps etc

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            You actually have to sit up just to get FaceID to work? That’s pretty lame considering it was touted as being so convenient.

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              Yeah, unless it could be because my double chin is terrible when I’m not sat up 😂 but I’m pretty sure the phone can’t read people’s faces when it’s in horizontal mode

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          1 year ago

          Apple Watch works great to unlock iPhone and iPad, especially love it while skiing and I don’t have to touch my phone or take off my facemask,goggles and helmet!

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            1 year ago

            Yeah, but Apple being Apple the restriction it to Watch. I wear a Garmin. They should really let me specify any device.

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              1 year ago

              This is a very Apple move, prioritise Apple device sales over customer freedom, choice and enjoyment. They are notably bad at this compared to Samsung, Google etc

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              Apple can provide cover for this restriction by touting their T2 security chip and underlying architecture that enables their chain-of-trust. It just so happens that they’re the only company that is authorized to use those chips, so it’s a very wink-and-a-nod excuse at best.

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      As an iOS user, I’ve always hated FaceID. Inferior experience to having a button and using fingerprint reader. The worst is when I need to unlock phone for someone while driving.

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    1 year ago

    I guess even the longer support isn’t exactly the deciding factor considering that Samsung has been offering 4 full so updates and google just announced 7.

    iOS vs Android is a fool’s debate imo, it’s about more about preferences than about absolute features, even when the features are same, their implementation and convenience can make a difference. Someone may prefer the same thing is done on android and the someone else will prefer the way it’s done on iOS.

    Why must people need to feel superior based on their phone and its OS? Everybody uses what they like best depending on their budget and to start comparing them is useless.

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      Wait… Google is supporting 7 full updates?! Any chance of them flip flopping on this? Is there legal verbiage that we can use to sue if they renege and change their minds? If so, then I might actually consider a Google phone…

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      google just announced 7.

      thought it’s yet to be seen if google will actually back that claim up with action. they do tend to drop projects, screwing over consumers of said project.

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      Does Samsung provide updates on day 1 with all Google features integrated? I’d say that’s a major differentiator in support. But then again if you don’t get the feature then you can’t miss it to begin with.

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      Absolutely this. I was on Android for 12 years. Decided to try out the 14 pro max, and well, I’m deep into the eco system. I absolutely love it.

      But down to it, a phone is a phone. You get what you want out of it. You pretty much can consume the same apps. Aside from exclusivity. But Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, tiktok, tumblr, whatever you use is on both phone systems.

      I still love Android, and what they have. But I really love and enjoy my 14 pro max. It’s been a year, and I haven’t had crashes in certain apps like I did on Android, since I think the app is far more optimized for Apple. Plus a 3rd party took over the app, and it was degrading in optimization, and bugs everywhere until they could figure out the proper coding.

      Otherwise, aside from that 1 app. Android is great, iPhone is great. It’s good to be able to have options!

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      1 year ago

      Yes. At this point its like BMW vs Toyota. You cannot convince neither of owner of those cars that they should have gotten the other. Its just a matter of preference

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        1 year ago

        Then get the GR Supra, Toyota badge with BMW price and maintenance, fit the description here

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        I had an old boss who left Silicon Valley to work for GM. He used to show up in my socials asking why anybody would bother to buy a Tesla when Chevy Volt could do everything a Tesla 3 could do at half the price. It’s like, bro – not everybody values what you do.

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        That’s a horrible comparison. BMW and Toyota are not even in the same class of vehicles. One’s a luxury brand and the other is just a standard everyday persons brand.

        If we’re comparing apples to apples, anyone who buys a BMW could have easily afforded a Toyota, not necessarily the other way around.

        Honda vs Toyota or Mercedes vs BMW would be a better comparison.

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          I don’t see how that’s a horrible comparison. iPhones are the BMWs in this example. iPhones are a luxury product. Androids are utilitarian.

          Most people who own Android phones own lower-end phones. Compared to iPhones, the everyday person with an Android is definitely driving a Toyota compared to a BMW.

          Do you think 90% of people with Androids are walking around with Galaxy S23 Ultras or Pixel 8 Pros? No, those are a small minority. This example works pretty well.

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            Most people are Android “fanboys” aren’t owning the lower tier phones. They’re going to have the $1000+ phones

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            Nah, the iPhone is a Toyota Corolla. Reliable, good resale value, not a lot of bells and whistles, kind of boring, but it gets you around town. The Pro is a Lexus. Samsung is a Honda Civic, cause people like to customize it, but the base model is still reliable. The Pixel is a VW Golf: a bit quirky but fun.

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          Most average people compare cheaper Androids to high end iPhones, so I would not say its that far off. The are not many people who buy Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra.

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    I’ve just switched from Android to iPhone a month ago and apart from inferior keyboard, cumbersome USB tethering, lack of possibility to place icons where you want, everything else I like more on iPhone. FaceId as someone already mentioned is amazing - this is a game changer, car play works also much faster and reliable than android auto in my car. Great camera app (coming from Samsung S21), amazing health app included.

    It is overpriced, but IMO there is no Android phone that has less issues than iPhone, super solid all around.

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    1 year ago

    Limitation of choices. Android has many choices and 90% are going to give shitty experience and hence bad impression.

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    I really don’t like the iPhone, but I got tired of my Android sending telemetry to a hostile country. I also can’t choose what photos an app can access. If I need to grant access to a photo, I’m forced to grant access to all photos, whereas in iOS I can restrict it to specific photos only.

    Sure, Apple also sends telemetry, but they’re pretty upfront about it, and I can turn it off.

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    1 year ago

    The UI, hardware, and app quality. Less intrusive advertisements. Most importantly no preinstalled Google shit.

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    1 year ago

    iOS may support longer but older versions of iOS stop supporting a lot of apps while many apps on android work for like android 7 and above or something like that. And to use the ecosystem you need to fill Apple’s pockets with cash and buy more of their products. They have premium hardware but honestly most people use a case so that doesn’t offer many advantages. And yeah no advantage over android is the answer. You can say iMessage but RCS exists on android and also most people just use WhatsApp or telegram or some other messaging platform.

    And for the love of god green bubbles exist on iPhones not androids. Tried talking to my friend after buying my first iPhone on iMessage. It had green bubbles. He told me to activate iMessage from settings. Then the bubbles became blue. Made me realise apple is just brainwashing people into thinking that android has limitations lmao.

    Apple loses as soon as they step out of their own turf while android can work with basically anything.