I don’t understand why people don’t pay for YouTube premium. Best streaming service I pay for. No ad blockers required. When I watch YouTube at someone else’s house the ads drive me nuts.
100%. It’s the principle of the thing. I don’t care how good YouTube Red is, simply the fact that they pulled as much bullshit as they have in an attempt to sucker people into paying for it warrants a total and permanent boycott. What Google is doing is utterly unacceptable and I’m not going to reward them for abusing my digital rights.
You people are arguing that YouTube should be hosting videos without asking for any compensation. You will continue blocking ads no matter how many of them there are.
I hope YouTube just completely paywalls itself so this whining can end already.
I wouldn’t mind paying for a service given I pay for my email provider when I can get gmail for free. Pretty ignorant to ignore the whole monopoly and say sToP uSiNg YoUtUbE tHeN. I will take what I need and I won’t give a penny or my data to those dicks. I also hope they paywall so there will be competitive services that I can happily pay for :)
Not that easy not to use the services of the big tech companies, is it? I don’t get why you would even give them extra money if their main profit is selling your data anyways. The only solution I see is to try to establish independent, people owned spaces/websites and so long the majority is under control of the big tech, don’t feed them your data and don’t feed them any money either.
I also want people-owned website to take off, but as of right now there is little incentive for people to host their videos on their own when YouTube does it for free and gets you a huge audience.
For now, I have to choose between participating in the adblocker cat-and-mouse game, or just getting my Turkish “friend” to purchase YT Premium and being done with it.
because it’s insanely difficult to get along completely without YouTube. Or if you happen to have some kind of business it’s easier said than done to “just not optimize” for Google products or “just not use Google services” like having a Google Maps entry. On a side note, even getting a privacy focused smartphone without using Google services and products is near to impossible (e.g. GrapheneOS only works on Pixel phones…)
it’s too expensive to begin with. 14$/month ? Netflix is more expensive to run and is cheaper. I would be fine paying 5€/month tho.
at this point YouTube made a point I was not an acceptable client for them (5s delay because I’m not using the company mandated browser) so I’m not supporting that.
You want my money Google? You already did. I bought a fucking pixel 8 pro because it’s a goddamn amazing phone. Do the same with YouTube.
(a) because it’s too expensive, and (b) it didn’t take a lot of DDGing to find “why am I still getting ads with YT Premium” and it turns out there are a bunch of exceptions that the YTP page doesn’t tell you about.
Because adblocking is free and if done right not detectable. I haven’t had a single issue with ublock on youtube.
I used to pay for premium but they keep upping their prices. At this point ublock on computers + revanced on phone is best way to go. Premium features without paying a cent.
Agreed. I’m on a family plan and I find that I’m getting my money’s worth, plus saving myself the headache of participating in this cat-and-mouse game.
I’m willing to bet the people who use adblockers and say “fuck Google” in this thread never considered donating to the developers of said adblockers for letting them dodge YouTube’s fee.
I’ve been having an excellent experience with premium as well. I like knowing that I’m directly materially contributing to the people I watch. The only problem I have with YouTube premium lately is that it keeps trying to suggest fucking 8 hours long music streams to my TV and seems as though it’s REFUSING to learn that I don’t want to see that shit unless I’m deliberately searching for it. Get that shit the FUCK outta my feed. Otherwise, it’s the way YouTube was meant to be used.
If I had my way though, I’d nuke YouTube’s ad system from orbit and replace it with this: for ads, NO VIDEO, NO SOUND, ONLY A SLIDE SHOW, CONTAINING ONLY TEXT. 15 Slides or 15 Seconds, MAXIMUM, whichever runs out first. If the user clicks anywhere but the product link, it advances the slide or closes the ad. PERIOD.
I don’t understand why people don’t pay for YouTube premium. Best streaming service I pay for. No ad blockers required. When I watch YouTube at someone else’s house the ads drive me nuts.
Fuck google that’s why
100%. It’s the principle of the thing. I don’t care how good YouTube Red is, simply the fact that they pulled as much bullshit as they have in an attempt to sucker people into paying for it warrants a total and permanent boycott. What Google is doing is utterly unacceptable and I’m not going to reward them for abusing my digital rights.
Then why are you using Google’s services
Are you familiar with the network effect?
I am. It’s just ironic to say “fuck Google” while continuing to depend on Google’s service
You people are arguing that YouTube should be hosting videos without asking for any compensation. You will continue blocking ads no matter how many of them there are.
I hope YouTube just completely paywalls itself so this whining can end already.
Don’t cut yourself with that edge!
inb4: “But YT operates at a loss and needs monies”. No. Just no. They deliberately worked at a loss to stifle and kill opposition.
I wouldn’t mind paying for a service given I pay for my email provider when I can get gmail for free. Pretty ignorant to ignore the whole monopoly and say sToP uSiNg YoUtUbE tHeN. I will take what I need and I won’t give a penny or my data to those dicks. I also hope they paywall so there will be competitive services that I can happily pay for :)
Not that easy not to use the services of the big tech companies, is it? I don’t get why you would even give them extra money if their main profit is selling your data anyways. The only solution I see is to try to establish independent, people owned spaces/websites and so long the majority is under control of the big tech, don’t feed them your data and don’t feed them any money either.
I also want people-owned website to take off, but as of right now there is little incentive for people to host their videos on their own when YouTube does it for free and gets you a huge audience.
For now, I have to choose between participating in the adblocker cat-and-mouse game, or just getting my Turkish “friend” to purchase YT Premium and being done with it.
because it’s insanely difficult to get along completely without YouTube. Or if you happen to have some kind of business it’s easier said than done to “just not optimize” for Google products or “just not use Google services” like having a Google Maps entry. On a side note, even getting a privacy focused smartphone without using Google services and products is near to impossible (e.g. GrapheneOS only works on Pixel phones…)
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it’s too expensive to begin with. 14$/month ? Netflix is more expensive to run and is cheaper. I would be fine paying 5€/month tho.
at this point YouTube made a point I was not an acceptable client for them (5s delay because I’m not using the company mandated browser) so I’m not supporting that.
You want my money Google? You already did. I bought a fucking pixel 8 pro because it’s a goddamn amazing phone. Do the same with YouTube.
It’s not too bad if you do it in a family plan and split the cost. I pay under £5 a month for it
What does it get you that using Brave doesn’t?
No need to worry about adblock suddenly stopping working
Creators get a shit ton more money from premium users whereas if you adblock they get none
YouTube music on mobile which imo is the best music streaming service out there for the money
God forbid anyone on Lemmy spends money on content they consume daily.
Thanks for the genuine response.
the pixel phones are great, I had the 7 and now the 8 pro. it pains me to see Google’s business decisions with everything else
(a) because it’s too expensive, and (b) it didn’t take a lot of DDGing to find “why am I still getting ads with YT Premium” and it turns out there are a bunch of exceptions that the YTP page doesn’t tell you about.
Because adblocking is free and if done right not detectable. I haven’t had a single issue with ublock on youtube.
I used to pay for premium but they keep upping their prices. At this point ublock on computers + revanced on phone is best way to go. Premium features without paying a cent.
It’s way too fucking expensive.
If it was less expensive and provided some privacy i would probably happily pay for it.
Agreed. I’m on a family plan and I find that I’m getting my money’s worth, plus saving myself the headache of participating in this cat-and-mouse game.
I’m willing to bet the people who use adblockers and say “fuck Google” in this thread never considered donating to the developers of said adblockers for letting them dodge YouTube’s fee.
I’ve been having an excellent experience with premium as well. I like knowing that I’m directly materially contributing to the people I watch. The only problem I have with YouTube premium lately is that it keeps trying to suggest fucking 8 hours long music streams to my TV and seems as though it’s REFUSING to learn that I don’t want to see that shit unless I’m deliberately searching for it. Get that shit the FUCK outta my feed. Otherwise, it’s the way YouTube was meant to be used.
If I had my way though, I’d nuke YouTube’s ad system from orbit and replace it with this: for ads, NO VIDEO, NO SOUND, ONLY A SLIDE SHOW, CONTAINING ONLY TEXT. 15 Slides or 15 Seconds, MAXIMUM, whichever runs out first. If the user clicks anywhere but the product link, it advances the slide or closes the ad. PERIOD.