stolen from linux memes at Deltachat
I haven’t booted Windows since February and at this point I’m afraid to.
Be afraid, be very afraid.
If you haven’t used Windows in that long you might as well just get rid of it.
Unfortunately not possible for me. I daily Arch (btw) and hadn’t booted into Windows for months and months until my university professor came along and said “btw, we’re gonna build GUIs using Microsoft Foundation Classes in Visual Studio now, and yes, you have to use Visual Studio on Windows in the exam”. So nope, not uninstalling Windows.
Sounds like prime time for a virtual machine to me!
I was wondering if you can do BIOS updates through wine (because obviously they only are supplied as .exes) but it doesn’t sound like something I’d like to try …
Aren’t BIOS updates usually done by putting the update file on a flash drive and installing it from the BIOS? I’ve never heard of updating BIOS from Windows with an executable.
Yeah, some vendors do this, I think the .exe basically unpacks the .bin file then calls some API or something to push it from Windows while it’s running. Probably done for the sake of more casual users who don’t know/want to mess with the actual BIOS UI.
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Yesterday after a reboot windows added a fucking bing search bar in the middle of my desktop.
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Stop talkimg about your ex, Cartman.
people who insist on using windows should just run it in a VM, it has suprisingly low overhead these days, you can even game with it if you insist, but i’m hearing wine/proton is getting good enough that it doesn’t even matter
Youre entirely correct about proton unless your kid wants to play fortnite
Literally the only reason I haven’t switched to a Linux distro. I hate anti cheats so much.
To date I have not found any degree of enjoyment in any games with a windows only anti-cheat.
I was going to say Siege, but they removed the ability to play as a team of exclusively shield recruits, I’ve heard.
Siege is honestly awful these days (not complaining about the sci-fi ops, reality is lame as shit why not spruce it up a bit) but what they have done to the UI and the queues (bring unranked back please) is honestly unforgivable and makes the game hard to play. (It isn’t all bad, but more bad than good)
I’m unlucky, I play Fortnite with my cousin in friends.
You’re still stuck when it comes to anti-cheat in multiplayer games. Some do allow it to work on Linux, but a significant number don’t. Hopefully the tides slowly start to change thanks to the Steam Deck.
For the records, emulating Windows won’t avoid anticheat software, either.
Most anticheats will require you to be running on metal.
windows’ ram overhead is insane though, it’s not like I can’t run it but I wouldn’t want to daily drive it
I need the stability and reliability of it not running in a vm because it’s for schoolwork
I mean I do that currently and it is okay, but file transfer is still not working. The rest is, and I think it even was pretty much ootb, but the SPICE drivers are a real hassle to get installed, while it could be a one click solution?
(This “insert spice CD” thing has no option to download the driver ISO, right?)
Also windows11 is a bit bloated. Bulk crap uninstaller and ChrisTituses Winutil really help making it less fancy but more performant, or just usable.
But yes, VM is way better than hardware. If your Laptop supports that.
There is an ISO somewhere, I always struggle to find it
After that you can just download from within the VM, mount from within windows and run the installer exe
Yup did that, but this needs to go automatically, like its their stuff why cant they download it themselves?
Who is they? There are many tools to run VMs on Linux not maintained by rhel
Idk the devs of virt-manager I guess. Not sure if its a RHEL project
You can “click” in GRUB?
They’re talking about the Debian installer.
you click the enter key…
Must have a keyboard with blue switches.
One time i opened windows to change a setting on my mouse that had windows only software
The app didnt boot so i tried to restary windows. It decided to update, froze in the middle of the update, and broke
After then everytime i tried to open windows it would send me back to the gnu grub screen
I had the opposite problem, I had my mouse all nicely configured just how I wanted it using Piper on linux, then booted windows to test something unrelated (which if I remember correctly didn’t even have the logitech software installed) and it somehow instantly reset my mouse to factory defaults. I decided whatever I was trying to do wasn’t worth the effort and have not had windows installed on my main computer since
After then everytime i tried to open windows it would send me back to the gnu grub screen
Sounds like it did you a favor
I have a single windows 11 system while everything else is on some form of Linux distro.
That windows system has never been connected to the internet, and it has been great without ever causing any of the typical update issues (although I update applications/components manually over an isolated NAS link).
It’s sad to see that everyday users have gotten habituated to these constant workflow braking updates. No wonder many people I know are jumping to the Apple ecosystem after getting a taste with a M2.
It’s sad to see that everyday users have gotten habituated to these constant workflow braking updates.
I’ve never understood this problem, people talk like it has a mind of it’s own and i just don’t get it.
I’m running windows 11 pro and have never had updates interrupt my shit.
Updates show up in my system tray, then it updates overnight when i sleep.
Most don’t leave their PC on overnight.
I remember when I went on my lunch break and came back to see my PC part way through upgrading to Windows 10, which I never agreed to. So yeah, Windows update can definitely act bizarrely.
I mean… having updates that suck is not a good solution but for sure do every update please.
Its just excrutiatingly slow, like 5min one time where Fedora Kinoite is more stable, doesnt fuck up other partitions and goes in the background while using the system!
Android (GrapheneOS) is even better with updates in the background and very low CPU usage, one reboot and you are there.
Or just regular mutable Linux distros seperating packages that dont need a reboot from packages that do.
And then Windows overwrites your bootloader so it can only boot into Windows.
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There is one better way, telling your linux bootloader where the windows install is so you don’t have to go to bios when you want to boot windows
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I need to overwrite windows because currently I’m just considering my laptop unusable until I bother to fix grub after that…
Do it! Commence the sacrifice so that the great penguin in the sky may grant you its blessing!
Oh my god, this truly was one of the biggest reasons I didn’t use Linux in college. After I built a rig with two SSDs, it felt so much easier to get into Linux.
windows updating the UI/UX with every new OS kills me. Wheres the ‘fuck off’ option when it asks for me to set up my personalization options and info?
I just wish they would literally and continued supporting Win 7. Everything after is just subpar from a usability perspective imo.
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Be sure to drink your ovaltine.Wait, you guys can click in grub?
Wouldn’t be shock for me if it existed. You can definitely do that in rEFInd though
OSHA would say having a Windows install is a potential hazard because it can become dangerous if activated. To remedy, you must remove the hazard.
Safety is no accident.
I mean, if it was accidental then… Just turn it off and boot back into Linux? You realise you can just turn it off while it’s downloading updates, right? Heck, you can even pause updates long term if you want! 😱 Crazy!
As someone who has turned windows off while it’s updating, don’t do it. You might be lucky enough to only have some files deleted
I never said to do it while it’s in the middle of changing stuff, but if you just booted you can turn it off and nothing will happen because worst case it will just be downloading without installing, as someone else mentioned, once updates are installed you can even turn off without applying updates if you want and you can also tell it to only download and not install unless you tell it to or not download at all.
I did that once, the registry stopped working. Turns out it can’t boot without that
If you’re going that way, Windows is not going to suddenly start updating when you simply boot it. You have to willingly click “Update and Shutdown/Restart” instead of “Shutdown/Restart”, assuming your computer even finished downloading the update.
I have a Windows 10 partition on a second machine. I have disabled automatic updates in the options and I never click “Update at restart” or anything. Yet, whenever I need to boot into Windows it decides to automatically start updating itself.
I guess that I use it infrequently so there are always updates available, but it shouldn’t force them on me when I’ve specifically disabled them.
Also, when you choose either of the update or restart/shutdown options, it actually tries to restart, (for me) always boots back into linux because that’s my default. When I’d eventually boot back into Windows, it just continues installing the update I’d long forgotten about.
Pretty happy to be rid of that mess entirely now.
Simple fix here. Just get rid of your Windows partition.
I did this on my new laptop. feels_good_man.png
Welcome and enjoy!
Too real. I booted up windows last week because I wanted to test something quickly before going to bed… starting it and testing my thing took about 5 mins; but then shutting down took more than half an hour.
Try ghost spectre. It’s a custom windows that rarely gets update. I didn’t has any problems even with cracked games. But then I left windows for Linux
custom windows that rarely gets update…
sounds like an amazing idea.
The crap people will do to avoid just using linux, eh?
If you wanna flash Android phone, or resurrect usb flash, then you’ll NEED windows, I’ve been daily driving Linux for 8 years myself, but sadly, some specific software don’t work under wine and if you run it in virtual machine then you’ll never know what’ll happen, may as well brick device you’re flashing
flash android phone = putting another OS on it? I use grapheneos, installed from my linux tumbleweed.
Nah man, lineage os on chinese unsupported phones, trying to give new life to abandoned hardware
ADB and Fastboot both run natively on Linux. I don’t think I’ve needed other tools since the HP Touchpad days. And that didn’t come with Android in the first place.
Lineage is trash anyway: https://www.kuketz-blog.de/lineageos-weder-sicher-noch-datenschutzfreundlich-custom-roms-teil4/ Use browser translate
What manufacturer? If it’s done through Fastboot then no, it’s available on Linux just fine.
But of course, not all manufacturers use Fastboot.
you can flash phones through qemu
I tried install windows on qemu through gnome boxes, it didn’t go well, even though i used gui only options, no tinkering
i am fortunate enough to not need a vm often, but the last time i had to use one, i just didnt bother with win11 and used a win 10 installer image. also i think the xiaomi tool didnt/doesnt work with usb 3.0 so i had to use usb 2.0 drivers in order to flash
I used it along Linux for gaming but now I’m gonnatruy to game on Linux
wish you could install only security updates
You can delay all other updates with the group policy editor. You can disable preview builds and you and delay quality updates by 30 days and delay feature updates by 365 days. The bugs are always worked out by then.
OR they could stop shipping broken updates for their $100 ad-infested operating system. Just a a thought.
My tinfoil hat theory is that they ship broken updates on purpose to feign how fast and hard they work on fixing them. See, customers, we really care!
thats good but Im also worried about the useless changes that they make… so after 365 days I would start getting constant useless updates anyways
Feature updates are necessary after a while. There’s SOME important stuff in there. And if you wait a whole year before installing the new one, all the bugs will be fixed by then
Long term service branch exists on 10.
Only for Enterprise tho