• Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Russian paid actors.

    I got into that exact argument about Biden. Eventually I called the person a Putin puppet and got my post deleted by a Lemmy.world mod.

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      So, you got into an argument, turned to insults, and moderation kicked in. Sounds like everything is working OK.

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        Sounds overzealous to me. Wrapped up in that is the assumption that associating a person with Putin is said as just a way to hurt feelings, rather than a perhaps-assuming claim… before yesterday, it never once occurred to me that a mod would have an issue with a claim of association that cannot be proven either way. Might as well start banning people for telling each other they’re wrong.

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          Wrapped up in that is the assumption that associating a person with Putin is said as just a way to hurt feelings, rather than a perhaps-assuming claim… before yesterday, it never once occurred to me that a mod would have an issue with a claim of association that cannot be proven either way. Might as well start banning people for telling each other they’re wrong.

          So, if I were to hit you with a claim of association that cannot be proven either way, but just so happens to conveniently dismiss anything you said, and anything you might say in response, you wouldn’t consider that a personal attack?

          Fine by me: How much is Putin paying you to sow bad-faith arguments among non-republicans?

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            I am frequently hit with much worse “attacks” than this and I laugh at and ignore the vast majority of them. Even when someone’s particularly good at being personally insulting (this example is NOT) I rarely get hurt by it.

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              Ah, so you do, in fact, recognize it as an attack, a personally insulting one, with the intention “to hurt feelings”, and not a “perhaps-assuming claim” you present it when trying to justify not getting banned for being an asshole.

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                recognize it as an attack, a personally insulting one, with the intention “to hurt feelings”,

                Precisely what I strongly dispute. It’s only an insult if you have no idea what an actual insult is.

                trying to justify not getting banned for being an asshole.

                Kinda ironic that you did not even read the conversation, and you get to call me an asshole in the same breath as telling me I was insulting, which again since you didn’t read the conversation you’re pulling that assumption straight from your rectum anyhow.

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                  It’s only an insult if you have no idea what an actual insult is.

                  This is only an argument if you have no idea what an actual argument is.

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        You’re exactly right, and you proved your own point with this comment thread. It’s really sad that people can’t be polite and think they have to resort to ad hominem crap.

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      Annnnd I was banned from politics on lemmy.world. this is actually kind of messed up. I don’t think I said anything particularly offensive even. It seems like it was more about my message.

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        I was banned from all of . world for shit posting in a running group by saying I’m too fat to run. The group crossed my feed when I was sorting by all and I said it just for shits and giggles.

        That got me banned but when I went on the discord and asked about this another mod came along and reversed it.

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      The “automod” just removed 5 of my comments for complete bullshit reasons, but it honestly does seem like they did it in response to the exact same issue – I claimed someone is a russian actor. I’m now wondering who runs lemmy.world, and what exact agenda they have.

      Despite it claiming “automod” there were human-written reasons, one of which was “Provide evidence of shilling or this is personal insult.”

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        You do realize I read Lemmy right?

        No, they were reported multiple times, and I removed them by hand, no bots were involved.

        Like I said in the modlog, if you have actual evidence of botting, let’s see it, otherwise, you are intentionally antagonizing people, and I can’t let you do that.

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          It seems like you assume I know a lot of things I either don’t know or forgot about. Forgot about the modlog, still even looking there, it’s missing detail, such as someone to message to ask a question. Also, … “abelist insults”, really? I believe I wrote a couple things like “what is wrong with your brain?” which would not be taken as seriously by anyone I know.

          I did see the message about providing evidence of shilling… I am just curious what would constitute such evidence? In my experience you could almost never prove it, and ironically that is what the parent post above is literally about.

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            It seems like you assume I know a lot of things I either don’t know or forgot about.

            You admit that you have no evidence at all, and you are going around calling people who disagree with you “Russian bots”?

            Suspicious voting patterns, repetitive spam messages, all of these would constitute as evidence, and our admins ban these spam bots usually within minutes.

            "what is wrong with your brain?” which would not be taken as seriously by anyone I know.

            You are going around and calling people stupid," it’s just a joke bro" is not going to cut it. Ironic prejudice is still prejudice.

            I don’t want to argue with you more. Take the next 3 days off, talk about something else, think about how you can contribute positively before you come back.

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              You admit that you have no evidence at all, and you are going around calling people who disagree with you “Russian bots”?

              No I didn’t, to any of this.

              Ironic prejudice is still prejudice.

              Uh, wow. No prejudice involved.

              I don’t want to argue with you more

              News to me this was an argument as the first contradiction just occurred