I originally signed up for lemmy about six months ago due to becoming outraged over reddit’s continual coddling of hard right and fascist powermods that use their authority to harass.
It was good here at lemmy.world for a long while until I started getting harassed by a 12 day old right leaning mod in /politics.
I posted a thread here about what to do and even got back a response from the site operator.
Which was shortly followed by a PM my thekingoflorida (the site operator) scolding me and threatening action for calling out the mods bad behavior in threads.
Reading the wind I realized lemmy.world is heading down the shitshow path that so many other online social forums have become and immediately deleted my account.
@thekingoflorida I do not want you to respond, I don’t care about your opinion, and if the fucking software would let me block you, I would have already.
So in short, I’m looking for a lemmy instance that has zero right wing users with admins that actually want to keep right wing forum manipulation off of their platform. I don’t care about ‘the marketplace of ideas’ or fairness in speech that tries to give space to fascist rhetoric in the guise of equality.
EVERY time they worm their ways in and have admin support, it ALWAYS railroads into what ruined reddit. And I’m tired of these shitstains ruining communities that I enjoy.
So, TL;DR: I’m looking for a lemmy instance with ZERO tolerance for anything right of Bill Clinton.
If you don’t want drama, you probably shouldn’t be calling people out by name.
Not even remotely an answer
It really is. I don’t think you’ll be happy on any instance. You’re here making a one day old alternate account to stir up drama, and name call. That’s dramatic behavior. I think that’s just who you are.
Any instance you go to no, matter how left-leaning, there will be some conflict, because people disagree sometimes, and you are not equipped with the appropriate social conflict handling skills to process that and fit-in.
Bro you destroyed them dying 🤣 🤣 😆 😆
It really isn’t.
I asked ‘What are some left leaning lemmy instances’
You answered: Don’t make drama.
And now you are pretending you provided an answer.
Any instance you go to no, matter how left-leaning, there will be some conflict
I don’t care about conflict, I care about right wing activist mods using their power to harass and shape conversation.
Your post was more detailed than just ‘show me a list of left leaning Lemmy instances’… because you could self serve that with https://lemmyverse.net/
How I read your post:
I used to like it here, but then people started making drama with me, then the admin started making drama with me. I want to find an instance where there won’t be any drama, tell me where I can go to a place where nobody will disagree with me.
tell me where I can go to a place where nobody will disagree with me.
Start your own private instance and federate with no one. Nobody will disagree with you.
Meme answers should be an immediate ban, but it won’t be
Offense usernames, namecalling or harassing volunteers who tried to help you could be an immediate ban also but here you are.
Do you agree with @Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world posting the conversation you had with him in this thread so people know what it is about?
This was a meme? Which one?
A valid solution isn’t a meme answer you dunce
tell me where I can go to a place where nobody will disagree with me.
I hear there’s a site called read it that will cater to those needs if he’s curious
If you can only win arguments with strawmen, are you even winning at all?
Asks the person, telling me I’m arguing when all I did was make a shitty joke in reply to something someone else said as a strawman comment?
Yes. Yes I am.
because you could self serve that with
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Never heard of that site before so your assumption is pretty unwarranted.
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Only 2 sites show up with the ‘leftist’ tag, one is for tankies and the other is for people in the midwest. I am neither of these.
How I read your post:
I’m not responsible for your baises or reading comprehension issues. I asked a question, gave the reason why I was asking it, and you chose to go off on an unrelated tangent about drama. And for some reason the mods seem to think that Rule 8 doesn’t apply to you.
I appreciate you giving context for your question, that allowed us to have a richer discourse about making you happy in the long term.
The reason context is important, is so that we can see the meta question around the actual question.
As far as the rule 8 relevancy discussion goes, I believe every one of my comments here has been a good faith and attempt to be extremely relevant to your concern. We can disagree about that, but I don’t wish you to be moderated out of the discussion
Your initial reply wasn’t even close to an attempt to answer my question, pretend to be civil all you want I know what your kind is like.
but I don’t wish you to be moderated out of the discussion
Yes and that was exactly the form of site operator supported harassment took, so I don’t want to participate in a lemmy instance that has a site operator with a willingness to support right wing activist mods.
In 2015 when reddit was gearing up for its great fascist expansion, I saw these signs and called them out to mods, users, and admins, and UNIVERSALLY the response was quite similar to yours: ‘why are you causing drama?’
Now look what that fucking site is like.
And for some reason you are confused why me finding that lemmy.world is rapidly heading in that direction already would be frustrating.
Look, thanks for the list to the lemmyverse search, but other than that my time with you has been a sad waste of electrons. You just forwarded the heat death of the universe by a tiny increment with your non-answer.
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Beehaw… they’re practically a separate platform at this point. A left oriented oriented echo chaimber if you will.
Literally the second reply already stated this without your obvious magabias creeping in.
your obvious magabias
You are jumping at shadows something fierce.
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the communist tankie ones are lemmygrad and hexbear and to a significantly lesser extent lemmy.ml. I consider hexbear super authoritarian tankies and not really abiding by the socialist ideology most of the time.
Someone else mentioned Beehaw which is an instance that is all about being polite. Iirc they defederated from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works.
Your username is fuck lemmy, pretty agro stance to start imo. Best of luck
I made this user account as a throwaway specifically after the instance admin actively supported am activist mod that was repeatedly harassing me, it was supposed to be fuck_lemmy.world but apparently you can’t use punctuation in usernames.
beehaw defederated from lemmy world
Correct
The admin you had a talk with posted the conversation and he was VERY fair towards you.
Sorry but no, and no amount of magical language will change the fact that I called out harassment, violated zero community rules, and was threatened with censure.
Lol magical language. I GO BACK TO FARK WAH WAH
I consider hexbear super authoritarian
Ok then they’re off the list. I appreciate the context, other users replied with just the name. Their community list was giving me massive red flags so I’m glad you were able to comment on that
Someone else mentioned Beehaw
So far I think that’s going to be my choice. Submitted my application about 20 mins ago.
Your username is fuck lemmy, pretty agro stance to start imo. Best of luck
My original deleted username was nothing like this. I made the username as a throwaway to express my frustration with lemmy.world’s site admin.
From what I’ve seen, I sincerely think you’ll like it at Beehaw. They’re an ok bunch of progressive folks who refuse to let it become a nazi bar. I can get behind that. Have fun!
You are probably right about the fit, made an application for an account and we’ll see how it goes
Just a heads up - beehaw are liberals at best (with the whole “faux civility” bs, and from my experience, an odd tolerance for tankies), not leftists.
I agree with others that blahaj is a good bet, I’m on kbin myself, and have not had problems with the instance (individual users sure, but I just report where I can and block), so maybe give it a look too (kbin also has other instances like lemmy does, but I’ve not looked in to any of them yet)
I feel as soon as my application for blahaj is approved that I will be mainly there though I made kbin and beehaw logins just in case.
Sounds like you’ve got all bases covered! 👍
Hmm. Maybe Beehaw?
Thanks, checking it out now.
Its always fun watching people fight over how pure their beliefs are.
That’s not actually what’s going on here but I understand why your limited reading comprehension leads you to that assumption.
Someone point this man to a soap opera instance, stat!
Mmm? I don’t remember ever scolding someone. If you feel like I did that was probably me being Dutch. Could you specify what I said that made you angry?
Okay, so I read through some of the replies and I think I know what exchange you are referring to (not gonna doxx your ofcourse). I was honestly trying to ascertain if that mod had abused their power. You spammed the accusation through different communities, which is against the rules. I removed those comments, but I was still trying to work with you to investigate that particular mod.
Notice how the won’t engage with you at all because the are clearly in the wrong someone hurt their feelings so the broke every rule on the instance throwing a tantrum and are surprised when the get repercussions for it.
No I was having brunch, I’ve already replied to every post in this thread.
Aren’t you the sensitive bombast.
Wow, you really need to learn what the definition of sensitive is you’re the one getting butt hurt over that comment therefore you’re the sensitive one.
You spammed the accusation through different communities, which is against the rules
Except it isn’t?
Do not engage in content manipulation such as posting spam content, vote manipulation through using several user accounts or consistently down-voting a user.
Rule 5 of our policy. More information here: https://legal.lemmy.world/fair-use/
Sounds to me like the instance you’re looking for is Blahaj Lemmy over at lemmy.blahaj.zone.
I put in my application so here’s hoping.
Try Hexbear, I think you’d be a good fit.
Hexbear
After one look at their community list, hell FUCK no.
Just because I don’t want to deal with magapedes doesn’t mean I’m a tankie
Hexbea
Also aren’t all Lemmy instance Federated so the will still run into those users 😂
I don’t care about right wing users, hell I’m even willing to talk with them.
My problem is right wing activist mods and the site admin that supported them.
Federated servers cannot exert mod authority on other instances, did you not bother reading my post at all?
Honestly, I’m just here for the funny comments that is all good luck.
Then probably go browse a humor community instead of an informative one.
No, this one works just fine. Thank you though.
Then don’t be so surprised when people point out your shitposting
If you call that shit posting then I see why you don’t fit in anywhere.
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lemmy.blahaj.zone sounds like a good fit for you. It’s an instance predominately set up as a refuge for trans people, but accepts anyone respectful. The admins defederate from anything offensive which keeps it a safe place for people who need it. I’m not trans but basically signed up here because I feel the same as you, I come here to unwind before bed and want to avoid inflammatory shit. It’s a great little community.
lemmy.blahaj.zone
Its funny but it seems like the trans community has some of the best no-hate zones, thanks for the suggestion and you are the first one to make it for that site.
Going to check it out now.
accepts anyone respectful
This was an appropriate qualifier for this thread
I don’t know shit about kingoflorida but I’m currently stuck in this neo fascist state and I sure as hell am doing what I can to fix it… consider my vote his anti vote!
Edit: One day folks will learn that tolerance cannot include intolerance… intolerance will spread like cancer and choke the life out of freedom.
Tolerance was and remains a peace treaty: you be tolerant, and we’ll tolerate you. Once someone opts to break the treaty, they receive no further protection from it.
Do you have example of right winged posts on Lemmy. ?
I sometimes have the impression that the Fediverse political diversity goes from Soft social-democrat who are ready to make a deal with liberals, like accepting that billionaire can own companies if union are powerful enough to hard-liner Marxist who thing that we should nationalize the mean of production, jails the billionaire, and implement a maximum salary, and that the political debate is more We all agree that Climate change, social issues and societal issues are important However, in a democratic system we cannot do everything at the same time so by which one do we start ?
But basically, It’s hard to find, Liberals supporting free market, and thinking that Von der Leyen manages the EU properly. If you remove a few tankies who think that Putin, Orbàn, and Erdogan are nice guys, there isn’t much support for right wing government and policies. I am glad to not have all the right winger from reddit, but feel like it’s a bit too skewed.
idgaf about any right wing posts they have the same right to be here if they behave, that’s not the reason for my leaving.
I was pretty clear in my post that I was being harassed by a moderator, and they were using their mod powers to shape a narrative that is manifestly anti-liberty.
This has nothing to do with anything any regular user has posted or replied with.
I want to give my side of the story.
I removed one of person’s comment on the political community because it was reported, from what I can recall, it was a very long, borderline QAnon level rant that was antagonizing other users for essentially not buying into their conspiracy theory, which we took very seriously here.
This person was not even banned, and the modlog can confirm that.
I have had literally zero interaction with this person in any form other than this single comment removal. I have never sent this person a single DM or reply, and I think our admins can confirm that.
When I woke up the next morning, I saw 4 already removed reply to my comments from this person, and it appears that this person has already purged their own account.
I always recommend kbin to every question. 100% no complaints so far
kbin
I think that’s the only other alternative I’ve heard of before now. Appreciate the suggestion and going to make an account now.
kbin.social
The fuckingcapitalists and goddamnedfascists are everywhere. They have banned me from several subs too. Good luck.
I appreciate it, and hope the site admin gets their head out of their ass before this place becomes unsalvageable
Don’t worry about that you and your alts are banned. I didn’t ban this account yet so you can answer if it is ok to post your conversation with thekingoflorda here.
I don’t have any alts, and as mentioned earlier I don’t plan on hanging around any longer than it takes to fully explore the alternatives.
You can give all the space and protection to fascists you feel like without my presence getting in the way by calling it out.
You have moira_mayhem on Kbin and LW and this account. So yes, you have alts.
We don’t give a platform to fascists that’s why we defederated from those instances. But what you want is an echo chamber, I’m sure the instance you applied for will be better suited. But that account will be banned from this instance as well.
Wdym site admin?
There is a user account that is known as the ‘instance operator’, it is the default first site admin created on install.
It’s the best analogy to a ‘site owner’ as far as I can see.
Lemmy.world’s instance operator is thekingoflorida, for example.
I am not, haha. I was appointed by Antik, I’m way to dumb to start my own instance.
That’s really funny because when I spoke to you about emailing info.lemmy.world, you spoke in the first person.
Also I asked you not to reply to the thread it seems you just can’t not be a raging asshole, can you?
I meant to speak as part of the admin team here on lemmy.world. If I didn’t make that clear, I apologize for that, I guess.
You are accusing me of things I didn’t do in my mind, did you really expect me to not defend myself? I am not angry or anything, just confused about this whole ordeal.
Link to a screenshot of the conversation with an LW admin mentioned by OP: https://lemmy.world/comment/6649251
