You’re right, it’s totally fine that he doesn’t do anything to put it on the agenda.
Because he’s not a literal king, we can’t criticise him for ignoring people’s needs and failing to say or do anything to push for something that is not only sorely needed but extremely popular across political divides.
It’s totally fine that the entire dem primary field was talking about medicare for all when a popular candidate was forcing them to, and then we didn’t hear one word about it after everyone rallied together to force that guy out. Don’t criticise in election season, you don’t want Trump do you?
I mean, give him some time! He’s just a new baby president! Everyone knows you get a few months to just kind of chill and get a feel for the space.
Oh but we can’t talk about it now, look at what the republicans are doing, it’s just such a crisis right now, we’re just reacting to their crazy antics!
Oh we lost congress in the midterms, now we can’t do anything.
Listen, you can’t expect the president to actually do anything. Because he’s not a literal king.
Fucking libs. You spend all your time telling us to follow a process, and when the process gets nothing done, you tell us not to blame you, it’s just the process! It’s just hard, and slow, and it takes time, and we really need to wait for another four or eight or twelve years, and then maybe another dem will get elected and kind of partially undo some of the damage the last guy did and not actually make any progress to make up for it.
And when we try to point this out, you call us whiny little babies who aren’t educated and mature enough to sit around waiting for Godot to finally pull his thumb out and show up.
Look, change is slow. Especially so when dealing with government. The Democrat party is also split between centrists and progressives, and this divide will only grow as more and more young people start to vote. Those changes that we all want to see are also being hammered by a Republican controlled House. Nothing is going to get through there - Biden can groan and moan all he wants, but it won’t do anything. But it’s not like he’s not doing anything…
He’s not doing “nothing”. He’s working with what he’s got.
I mean. I get that there’s a lot of complaints, but to say he’s not doing anything is incorrect. I mean, sure, do I wish more progress was made? Yeah, but I’m not going to blame Biden for it. Now, if Biden had control of the House and Senate, and this shit still didn’t happen…oh yeah, I’d be feisty right now.
Change is not inherently slow, there’s just a vested interest by those with power granted by the status quo to stop it or slow it as much as possible. They don’t want it to change unless they can ensure they keep their power (or expand on it) with the change.
The rate of change is mostly set by the population. It’s historically slow, because the majority is usually slow to adapt. Change can also be fast (e.g. revolutions), when leadership is completely out of touch with reality.
I love how you took all the criticisms I had and then just repeated them back at me as if they were justifications.
Like, oh wow, look at those extremely marginal, far-too-little-far-too-late incremental changes that do nothing to address the fundamentally broken parts of the healthcare system.
I didn’t say he wasn’t doing anything at all, I said he doesn’t push for what is actually needed. He has the bully pulpit, and he won’t use it. He won’t make executive orders that force the issue and make congress reply. He isn’t wielding power, he is just marking time, giving the bare minimum concessions to make gullible fools believe he’s worth their support, and then he’ll hand power right back to the fascists when it’s their turn again, as it inevitably will be.
Actual progress was always won by mass action. It was fought and bled for, and it doesn’t matter what kind of politician they are, they will kill to stop it because they depend on the political system for their power, and mass action threatens that system.
It makes no difference to me, I don’t know you, but it’s fascinating you felt the need to insert yourself into the conversation just to announce that you’re not listening.
Pretty sure anything that touches the budget in any way other than minor allocation changes is strictly congress’ business.
For example, when he tried to forgive student loans several years ago he was empowered to do so by a law from 2003 which allowed the Secretary of Education to change rules and waive amounts during an emergency such as 9/11 or a Pandemic. And State AGs still sued him over it and won, despite that legislature.
What I intend to communicate is that Biden has never been, in any way, serious about any of the focus-grouped, means-tested student loan forgiveness programs that he has been pretending to work toward. He and his advisors clearly know full well that his buddies in Congress will NEVER, EVER pass it. It’s like the overdraft fee thing recently that doesn’t take effect until 2025 and will absolutely be eliminated by Congress before it even takes effect.
But prez is king who change anything by decree…
You’re right, it’s totally fine that he doesn’t do anything to put it on the agenda.
Because he’s not a literal king, we can’t criticise him for ignoring people’s needs and failing to say or do anything to push for something that is not only sorely needed but extremely popular across political divides.
It’s totally fine that the entire dem primary field was talking about medicare for all when a popular candidate was forcing them to, and then we didn’t hear one word about it after everyone rallied together to force that guy out. Don’t criticise in election season, you don’t want Trump do you?
I mean, give him some time! He’s just a new baby president! Everyone knows you get a few months to just kind of chill and get a feel for the space.
Oh but we can’t talk about it now, look at what the republicans are doing, it’s just such a crisis right now, we’re just reacting to their crazy antics!
Oh we lost congress in the midterms, now we can’t do anything.
Listen, you can’t expect the president to actually do anything. Because he’s not a literal king.
Fucking libs. You spend all your time telling us to follow a process, and when the process gets nothing done, you tell us not to blame you, it’s just the process! It’s just hard, and slow, and it takes time, and we really need to wait for another four or eight or twelve years, and then maybe another dem will get elected and kind of partially undo some of the damage the last guy did and not actually make any progress to make up for it.
And when we try to point this out, you call us whiny little babies who aren’t educated and mature enough to sit around waiting for Godot to finally pull his thumb out and show up.
Look, change is slow. Especially so when dealing with government. The Democrat party is also split between centrists and progressives, and this divide will only grow as more and more young people start to vote. Those changes that we all want to see are also being hammered by a Republican controlled House. Nothing is going to get through there - Biden can groan and moan all he wants, but it won’t do anything. But it’s not like he’s not doing anything…
He’s trying to lower costs of healthcare and prescriptions.
He’s strengthened Medicare.
He actively prevent Medicare cuts by passing a Bill back in 2022.
He’s not doing “nothing”. He’s working with what he’s got.
I mean. I get that there’s a lot of complaints, but to say he’s not doing anything is incorrect. I mean, sure, do I wish more progress was made? Yeah, but I’m not going to blame Biden for it. Now, if Biden had control of the House and Senate, and this shit still didn’t happen…oh yeah, I’d be feisty right now.
Biden’s no Superman, but he’s no Pooperman either
Change is not inherently slow, there’s just a vested interest by those with power granted by the status quo to stop it or slow it as much as possible. They don’t want it to change unless they can ensure they keep their power (or expand on it) with the change.
The rate of change is mostly set by the population. It’s historically slow, because the majority is usually slow to adapt. Change can also be fast (e.g. revolutions), when leadership is completely out of touch with reality.
I love how you took all the criticisms I had and then just repeated them back at me as if they were justifications.
Like, oh wow, look at those extremely marginal, far-too-little-far-too-late incremental changes that do nothing to address the fundamentally broken parts of the healthcare system.
I didn’t say he wasn’t doing anything at all, I said he doesn’t push for what is actually needed. He has the bully pulpit, and he won’t use it. He won’t make executive orders that force the issue and make congress reply. He isn’t wielding power, he is just marking time, giving the bare minimum concessions to make gullible fools believe he’s worth their support, and then he’ll hand power right back to the fascists when it’s their turn again, as it inevitably will be.
Actual progress was always won by mass action. It was fought and bled for, and it doesn’t matter what kind of politician they are, they will kill to stop it because they depend on the political system for their power, and mass action threatens that system.
Who’s the “we” and the “us” in your comment exactly?
People with integrity. You wouldn’t recognize them because you are not one of them.
ROFL! Hilarious!
Actual leftists.
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Great comment. Remember when Biden said he wouldn’t run for a second term.
Unnamed sources within the campaign, not Biden and only on background. Strong take, pal.
I’m not the one who made him 82 years old. Be mad at time. Oh right, it’s my fault you have to vote for walking corpse.
You think I’d read this shit?
It makes no difference to me, I don’t know you, but it’s fascinating you felt the need to insert yourself into the conversation just to announce that you’re not listening.
I just got through about half of it and it was absolute garbage. I was offended someone spent the time to write it down.
stomps feet dam libs!!
So was it the length, or that sentiment in particular?
Because long comments you agree with are fine, I assume, so what about that phrase made you turn off?
Pretty sure anything that touches the budget in any way other than minor allocation changes is strictly congress’ business.
For example, when he tried to forgive student loans several years ago he was empowered to do so by a law from 2003 which allowed the Secretary of Education to change rules and waive amounts during an emergency such as 9/11 or a Pandemic. And State AGs still sued him over it and won, despite that legislature.
I wonder if the
2008 legislation that he wrote eliminating student loan bankruptcy forgiveness in exchange for $250,000 from MBNA
got in his way too!
Vote blue no matter who $hitlibs are counting on people not being able to do basic research and just taking their corruption apologia at face value.
I am not sure that legislation has to do with spending though.
No shit!
What I intend to communicate is that Biden has never been, in any way, serious about any of the focus-grouped, means-tested student loan forgiveness programs that he has been pretending to work toward. He and his advisors clearly know full well that his buddies in Congress will NEVER, EVER pass it. It’s like the overdraft fee thing recently that doesn’t take effect until 2025 and will absolutely be eliminated by Congress before it even takes effect.
They think we’re stupid.
It’s a good read…
House of Cards. How Joe Biden helped build a financial system that’s great for Delaware banks and terrible for the rest of us.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/11/biden-bankruptcy-president/