Crossposted this in case of takedown. Hope this isn’t breaking the rules.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/1370464

Original Title: At least one lemmy.world admin accepted an off the record meeting with meta, and they won’t tell you about it.

Edit: I cannot confirm if the Original OP is telling the truth or lying, figured I wanted more people to see this so you can decide for yourselves who to believe.

Edit 2: Archived Link: https://archive.is/aJrnU

Edit 3: Hmm… Interesting… The original post was taken down instead of admins making a response. I mean, if I were an admin with nothing to hide, I’d just simply say “I did not have a secret meeting with anyone representing Meta/Facebook” then maybe lock the thread if stuff gets too out of hand. Deleting a post is not the right thing to do, and even if you are innocent, now you just made yourself look bad.

Edit 4: I appreciate the fact that the mods elected to use the lock thread option instead of outright removing this post. I do not agree with your decision, but I respect the fact that you left this post up. Alright, so that’s the end of this, hopefully the next time someone make accusations, they provide evidence. Also, if you are making a legitimate accusation, make sure to crosspost to different instances to make takedowns more difficult. So to conclude this, I want to state these facts:

  1. The Original OP did not seem to have provided any evidence.

  2. The Original Post was removed and the Original OP was banned from the community which the post was in.

  3. None of the admins of lemmy.world made a statement in response to the accusations.

You can draw whatever conclusion you want from this. But without any further information, this discussion cannot continue any longer, since a mod has already locked this post.

Archive Link of where the page was, now showing an error message: https://archive.is/5BWIw

Don’t belive me? Ask them.

Fosstodon admins were at least transparent and shared with their community when they were approached by meta for an off the record meeting, which was awesome. They also declined that meeting and shared screenshots of them doing so.

But lemmy.world admins won’t tell you that at least one of them accepted that same meeting request. Why won’t they say that?

Tell your community that you accepted a meeting with meta. Thats not wrong in and of itself, but I feel it is shady/not right when you’re communicating about a wait-and-see approach, while having meetings with the company in question yet not being transparent about it.

@ruud@lemmy.world care to comment?

Also, I’m spinning up my own instance because I don’t trust this platform to folks who aren’t transparent. Don’t ask me to join, it’s going to be just for me for now. I don’t even know that I have time to admin an instance, but my trust is wearing thin based on the facts at hand. So, it’s what I’m doing.

  • handhookcardoor@lemmy.worldEnglish
    26·
    1 year ago

    Can we please shut up about Meta, there’s not a single point in the conversation, everyone has made up their mind, and now are spreading stupid school rumors, like, what the fuck y’all.

    • nekat_emanresu@lemmy.mlEnglish
      6·
      1 year ago

      If you don’t like pizza, don’t go into a pizza shop and tell them to shut up about pizza? You coulda downvoted and moved on.

      • handhookcardoor@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8·
        1 year ago

        No, but if I go to a site that I enjoy, and I see people constantly bitching and complaining about a single issue that we’ve all been over already, and I think maybe it’s enough?

        We can make better content than this.

        • nekat_emanresu@lemmy.mlEnglish
          4·
          1 year ago

          There are honorable easy to talk about complaints, and there are dishonorable annoying people that can’t be reasoned with. The issue would be resolved in a minute if both parties were civil. This is an existential threat for lemmy.

      • Rhoeri@lemmy.mlEnglish
        8·
        1 year ago

        Such a horrible analogy. How about-

        If you LIKE pizza, and don’t like people making up bullshit unprovable stories about it- they should be sent packing.

        This is a bullshit story without any substance or merit. It should be dismissed, and those staring the bullshit should be called out.

        • Norah - She/They@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          4·
          1 year ago

          I’ve seen your username all over this thread and every single one of your comments was unpleasant. Yet you accused others of “stirring the pot” and “starting drama”. I don’t have an opinion one way or the other, I wasn’t even going to comment, but I thought that you needed to be called out.

      • Anoril@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        Strange. I remember someone advertised lemmy to me as reddit alternative. Turns out, its place for circlejerk and being afraid of facebook.

            • nekat_emanresu@lemmy.mlEnglish
              3·
              1 year ago

              It’d be sweet if people learned more and talked less, then they would have realised the nazis bad, and the end of the world wont happen because of that silly prediction.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook

              https://www.abc.net.au/religion/facebook-complicity-in-the-rohingya-genocide/13737882

              I haven’t fully verified those two, but they give a hint. If you’d like to stop assuming and start understanding why some people are deeply worried then you can try and learn.

              • Anoril@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                3·
                1 year ago

                Dont worry. Its entertaining enough for me that people were hyping lemmy and fediverse so much, and it turns out its all gonna crumble on itself the moment anyone big will join the hype lol. Makes it seem like it forever will be obscure place at the corner of the internet with decade old memes and circlejerk how good it is that nobody knows about them.

                Dont worry, i know that facebook is shit. Allthough your second link is bullshit too, considering that it boils to “how dares facebook not being more initiative to censor itself”. Itsjob of tge government to enforce censorshipon facebook, not the other way around. Still, most criticism is focussed around privacy and if people are afraid for their data, they shouldnt post it on public forums in the first place.

                Wonder whats next gonna be the danger for fediverse? Maybe lemmy.world getting too big? As you see maybe you already cant trust people who run it, maybe instances should defederate from it while its not too late?

                • Norah - She/They@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                  2·
                  1 year ago

                  You mean it was the job of a government that, among other things, removed the Rohingya peoples citizenship, to censor Facebook here?

                  You literally have no idea what you’re talking about. International human rights watchdogs were the ones criticising facebook. Not blaming them either, but pointing out their complicity.