Fairphone 3 still has the headphone jack, it was removed with Fairphone 4. Still worth it because you can swap out any component with a single screw driver within minutes and you get years of updates. Also while not perfect, they make an effort to source their materials as ethically as possible and pay the factory workers a living wage.
You make it sound like they had to remove the headphone jack to have the other stuff. They didn’t. They just wanted to push users to buy their very not environmentally friendly wireless headphones/earbuds.
As a f*irphone user, I feel so perplexed about this. On one hand, they do all these awesome things like unlocking the bootloader, repairability, opensourcing the schematics, etc. But on the other, they do this predatory garbage to get you to buy their shitty headphones. Just goes to show that companies are never your friends, not even “ethical” ones.
You really still use wired headphones? I can’t remember the last time I used mine. My phone and laptop still have the jack but I hate them. Catch on everything, having to keep the device by me at all times (which I don’t always have pockets for), God forbid I forget I have em in and go to move around, get em yanked out of my ears or send the phone flying. I mean I get it if the wireless ones die, but even then, I’d rather wait for them to charge.
And some of us just want to plug it in and not worry about it. If you want me to fully support wireless then I need a protocol that doesn’t randomly skip and robot.
Catch on everything, having to keep the device by me at all times (which I don’t always have pockets for), God forbid I forget I have em in and go to move around, get em yanked out of my ears or send the phone flying.
You’d be perfect for an infomercial.
I’d rather wait for them to charge
Godd luck doing that when the battery can no longer hold a charge.
I was very resistant to getting a smartphone. I think my first Android was the blackberry q20. then a Samsung A10? I resisted touchscreens. I wanted physical ports and memory expansion and buttons.
and while I still hate touchscreens, I learned to like Bluetooth headphones. specifically, the Anker a3212.
maybe you would like them, too.
I also previously really liked the besign sh03 headphones, and I’m now lusting after the Sony wi-1000xm2
I don’t “dislike” bluetooth headphones. They certainly are more convenient and I used them for things like going to the gym, commuting, vacuuming, etc. The problem is when that’s your only option for no good reason. There’s absolutely no excuse for omitting the headphone jack. Strange Parts on YT even added it to an iPhone that didn’t have it and it works just fine so no, it’s not a space problem and it would also not prevent the phone from being water resistant.
I like my Sony WF-1000XM4s but they don’t sound as balanced as my Moondrop Aria or AKG K361 and they certainly aren’t as durable.
i have not been able to justify any true wireless headphones at all. three loose parts, three batteries, so many failure points. it’s like the problem you’re explaining on steroids.
For walking (especially in winter) and going to the gym, they’re very practical. But yeah, you can’t get too attached. My earbuds in particular have a design flaw and Sony’s replaced them 4 times already.
You’re missing the point. It’s not about whether you like to use wired headphones or not, it’s about giving the user the choice to use them or not. Wired headphones are more sustainable, because they require less components, and don’t have batteries that degrade over time (and require slave labour to produce). So a company that brands itself as sustainable and ethical should absolutely include a headphone jack.
Awesome! Now plug in a set of wired headphones without using a dongle. Oh, wait…
Fairphone 3 still has the headphone jack, it was removed with Fairphone 4. Still worth it because you can swap out any component with a single screw driver within minutes and you get years of updates. Also while not perfect, they make an effort to source their materials as ethically as possible and pay the factory workers a living wage.
You make it sound like they had to remove the headphone jack to have the other stuff. They didn’t. They just wanted to push users to buy their very not environmentally friendly wireless headphones/earbuds.
As a f*irphone user, I feel so perplexed about this. On one hand, they do all these awesome things like unlocking the bootloader, repairability, opensourcing the schematics, etc. But on the other, they do this predatory garbage to get you to buy their shitty headphones. Just goes to show that companies are never your friends, not even “ethical” ones.
Oh I’m not saying they had to do it. It sucks that they did. But their phones are still good.
You really still use wired headphones? I can’t remember the last time I used mine. My phone and laptop still have the jack but I hate them. Catch on everything, having to keep the device by me at all times (which I don’t always have pockets for), God forbid I forget I have em in and go to move around, get em yanked out of my ears or send the phone flying. I mean I get it if the wireless ones die, but even then, I’d rather wait for them to charge.
And some of us just want to plug it in and not worry about it. If you want me to fully support wireless then I need a protocol that doesn’t randomly skip and robot.
Also that doesn’t sound like crap on calls and supports simultaneous bidirectional audio.
You’d be perfect for an infomercial.
Godd luck doing that when the battery can no longer hold a charge.
I was very resistant to getting a smartphone. I think my first Android was the blackberry q20. then a Samsung A10? I resisted touchscreens. I wanted physical ports and memory expansion and buttons.
and while I still hate touchscreens, I learned to like Bluetooth headphones. specifically, the Anker a3212.
maybe you would like them, too.
I also previously really liked the besign sh03 headphones, and I’m now lusting after the Sony wi-1000xm2
I don’t “dislike” bluetooth headphones. They certainly are more convenient and I used them for things like going to the gym, commuting, vacuuming, etc. The problem is when that’s your only option for no good reason. There’s absolutely no excuse for omitting the headphone jack. Strange Parts on YT even added it to an iPhone that didn’t have it and it works just fine so no, it’s not a space problem and it would also not prevent the phone from being water resistant.
I like my Sony WF-1000XM4s but they don’t sound as balanced as my Moondrop Aria or AKG K361 and they certainly aren’t as durable.
i have not been able to justify any true wireless headphones at all. three loose parts, three batteries, so many failure points. it’s like the problem you’re explaining on steroids.
For walking (especially in winter) and going to the gym, they’re very practical. But yeah, you can’t get too attached. My earbuds in particular have a design flaw and Sony’s replaced them 4 times already.
You’re missing the point. It’s not about whether you like to use wired headphones or not, it’s about giving the user the choice to use them or not. Wired headphones are more sustainable, because they require less components, and don’t have batteries that degrade over time (and require slave labour to produce). So a company that brands itself as sustainable and ethical should absolutely include a headphone jack.
I could do that, what’s the problem ?
You’re right, the Fairphone 3 still had it. Fairphone 4 and 5 don’t.