• Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    10 months ago

    Elaborate. You said it’s fascism, then said liberal democracy is a breeding ground for fascism. Which is it? Is all reactionary ideology fascism?

    This is what I mean. You have precisely no grounding in theoretical knowledge, and cannot understand the differences between a fascist movement that results from Neoliberalism, to Neoliberalism itself. That’s like saying a tadpole is an adult frog. Same species, Capitalist, but completely different stages.

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      10 months ago

      Elaborate

      They think so therefore they’re right. I’ve seen far too many ludicrous statements by people that clearly came before the evidence, not after it.

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      fascism is a strictly regimented society in which every institution serves the state. under Mussolini the most obvious expression was corporatism and in fact that is the purest definition of fascism. sure, eco will talk about The racial stuff as Central but I don’t think Mussolini ever would. I think that he only saw that as part of strengthening the state just like almost every other country who was practicing eugenics at the time did, just like the United States.

      fascists come to power out of liberal democracies because liberal democracies are incapable of preventing them. All they have to do is pitch themselves as " third positionist" like clinton did.

      neoliberalism is fascism.

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        You explained what I already said: Neoliberalism creates the conditions for fascism. When one candidate is a Neoliberal, they leave the door open for fascism. When one candidate is a fascist, you’re straight jumping to fascism.

        Delaying the slide to fascism by voting neoliberal is the preferred course of action.

        You’re a fed, you have no knowledge of theory and exist purely to spoil the pot.

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          10 months ago

          A tiger cub is still a tiger. You can cuddle and pet a tiger cub. Even let your kids play with it. But a full grown tiger? That’s dangerous to have around, especially if it gets hungry.

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            Sure, so then there’s no difference in voting to be locked in a room alone with a tiger cub vs an adult tiger, got it.

            The tiger cub buys time to make meaningful grassroots change, even if it still continues the path to an eventual adult tiger.

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                  Obama didn’t result in fascism even after 8 years.

                  huh. do you remember 2015? chuds running around california knifing queer kids, marching in the street shouting for trump. then, a year later, guess who was elected.

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                    10 months ago

                    Yep, and it got worse after Trump got elected. Obama wasn’t the fascism, even if fascism is rising thanks to Neoliberalism.

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                  obama ran out of bombs and deported more people than bush or trump.

                  in fact, at the outset of his presidency, he promised a new era of cooperation between business and government. that’s literally mussolini’s fascism.

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                    It is not literally musollinis fascism. Certainly a start, but if you’re legitimately saying mussolini is equivalent to Obama then again, you’re a theoryless fed, and likely an actual fascist trying to commit fascist apologia.

                    Please, read theory for once.