you’re right, we can’t be single issue voters. We can’t just focus on the palestine genocide. we should also focus on labor rights for all workers (nods to the railway workers); ending the for profit education system currently in place, not just temporarily pausing payments on student loan debt, or cancelling debt for a few people; Abolishing for profit prison systems; Abolishing legal slavery of incarcerated individuals; ensuring affordable medical care by enacting a single payer system similar to Canada; enforce a livable minimum wage; tax the rich at a fair rate; codify reproductive rights of women
Those are my issues and joe has failed on them. I’m not saying that Trump would be better, but don’t call me a single issue voter when all the issues are what joe has failed me on.
franklin delano roosevelt did a pretty good job i think, with the new deal. JFK did a pretty good job with the civil rights act. Obama did some work on expanding those civil rights to include sexual orientation. Is it such a big ask that all indentured servitude is abolished, even for incarcerated people? Is it such a big ask that the tax rates go back to what they were before Reagan screwed it all up? The top tax bracket was something like 70% for the wealthiest people, iirc. And even if they get taxed that much, they’d still have a MASSIVE amount of money. Is it such a big ask that we don’t have to file for bankruptcy when we’re hit with huge medical bills because the medical system in the US is run by corporations? Is it too much to ask that the taxes we pay actually go toward something that helps us instead of killing civilians overseas?
I forgot to add to my wishlist, voting reform to abolish the first past the post system currently in place and opt for a more fair system such as instant runoff or ranked choice.
Yeah, all these are problems, but how is not voting or voting for the Republican Candidate (probably going to be Trump) will solve these issues? In most cases it won’t. You’re just upset at Biden personally for some of the decisions he made that were bad and want punish him personally for that so you can feel better. Even if it does cause way more problems than it solves. Even if it harms innocent people.
And hey, it’s fine and human to vengeful, but to be vengeful to the point of self harm is stupid. Don’t be stupid.
we keep putting it off as voting for the lesser of 2 evils. i held my nose and voted clinton in 16, voted biden in 20 and i have to vote for him again now. but when do i get to vote on someone who actually will do something i want them to do? 28? 32? ever? At what point should we stop voting for the lesser of evils and vote for someone we actually agree with?
There will never be a presidential candidate that you (or anyone) will actually agree with. From my perspective, voting is currently not enough. We need to organize.
If you can get everyone to agree on a third party candidate, they won’t be a third party candidate anymore. They’ll be one of the main candidates. Voting third party is a waste of your vote by definition.
Our choices this election cycle will be a faster or slower decline into fascism. The longer we can hold off fascism, more time others have to organize. If all you can do is vote, then vote for the lesser evil. If you have you have more time, energy, or money, organize.
you’re right, we can’t be single issue voters. We can’t just focus on the palestine genocide. we should also focus on labor rights for all workers (nods to the railway workers); ending the for profit education system currently in place, not just temporarily pausing payments on student loan debt, or cancelling debt for a few people; Abolishing for profit prison systems; Abolishing legal slavery of incarcerated individuals; ensuring affordable medical care by enacting a single payer system similar to Canada; enforce a livable minimum wage; tax the rich at a fair rate; codify reproductive rights of women
Those are my issues and joe has failed on them. I’m not saying that Trump would be better, but don’t call me a single issue voter when all the issues are what joe has failed me on.
That’s quite the wishlist.
Which politicians have you been satisfied with in the past?
franklin delano roosevelt did a pretty good job i think, with the new deal. JFK did a pretty good job with the civil rights act. Obama did some work on expanding those civil rights to include sexual orientation. Is it such a big ask that all indentured servitude is abolished, even for incarcerated people? Is it such a big ask that the tax rates go back to what they were before Reagan screwed it all up? The top tax bracket was something like 70% for the wealthiest people, iirc. And even if they get taxed that much, they’d still have a MASSIVE amount of money. Is it such a big ask that we don’t have to file for bankruptcy when we’re hit with huge medical bills because the medical system in the US is run by corporations? Is it too much to ask that the taxes we pay actually go toward something that helps us instead of killing civilians overseas?
I forgot to add to my wishlist, voting reform to abolish the first past the post system currently in place and opt for a more fair system such as instant runoff or ranked choice.
Yeah, all these are problems, but how is not voting or voting for the Republican Candidate (probably going to be Trump) will solve these issues? In most cases it won’t. You’re just upset at Biden personally for some of the decisions he made that were bad and want punish him personally for that so you can feel better. Even if it does cause way more problems than it solves. Even if it harms innocent people.
And hey, it’s fine and human to vengeful, but to be vengeful to the point of self harm is stupid. Don’t be stupid.
we keep putting it off as voting for the lesser of 2 evils. i held my nose and voted clinton in 16, voted biden in 20 and i have to vote for him again now. but when do i get to vote on someone who actually will do something i want them to do? 28? 32? ever? At what point should we stop voting for the lesser of evils and vote for someone we actually agree with?
There will never be a presidential candidate that you (or anyone) will actually agree with. From my perspective, voting is currently not enough. We need to organize.
If you can get everyone to agree on a third party candidate, they won’t be a third party candidate anymore. They’ll be one of the main candidates. Voting third party is a waste of your vote by definition.
Our choices this election cycle will be a faster or slower decline into fascism. The longer we can hold off fascism, more time others have to organize. If all you can do is vote, then vote for the lesser evil. If you have you have more time, energy, or money, organize.