• agent_flounder@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    We need to push for more protections like required notice and/or undermine at-will employment in various ways. I’m sick of corps having us over a barrel in every way.

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      10 months ago

      I live in the Netherlands which has much stronger workplace protections than USA (which I’m assuming this image is from). It’s still normal and maybe required to give notice, usually 30 days, but they also can’t fire you without cause and severance.

      Notices are logical from a business perspective, they just should be extended both ways.

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        10 months ago

        I also live in the Netherlands, and because I have worked at my current job quite long already, they have a notice-period of 4 months when they want to fire me, and I have 1 month notice-period when I want to quit.

        To be really honest, that is almost absurd for the employer.

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          Nah, that is normal.

          A company has many jobs, but a person should only really have one.

          It is much easier to find someone to work than it is to hunt a job yourself. Could even spread the workload a little if they need more time.

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          I don’t suppose the Netherlands is immigration friendly and needs infosec people desperately? :)

          (Would it help that I am 1/4 Dutch and really like the Netherlands’ trance scene?? I’m grasping at straws lol)

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            10 months ago

            That sounds very much like something that the Netherlands might be interested in. If you are a “highly qualified foreigner” (Master-degree counts) you may even see very substantial tax-benefits being given to you by the government (for the first five years 30% of your income won’t be taxed).

            (German citizen living in the Netherlands for work.)

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            I don’t suppose the Netherlands is immigration friendly and needs infosec people desperately? :)

            Do you have the Dutch nationality or live in a EU country?

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              10 months ago

              Alas, no. I wished either was the case.

              Admittedly I was half joking… but also half serious, considering how much more messed up the USA could become soon.

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        10 months ago

        Yeah in the US it’s common to just get told you’re fired one day, or even just stop having shifts scheduled suddenly.

    • EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website
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      10 months ago

      At all employment is awful. It’s so clearly one sided.

      The argument is you should be able to fire people wherever, but to fire on the spot should require strong cause.

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        10 months ago

        Meh. Requiring notice wouldn’t change that. If they were that bad you’d just tell them to stay home for the notice period.

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      10 months ago

      I keep saying we want to be careful of that, though. At-will employment also means you are free to leave whenever. If you had to give a month’s notice to some of these toxic AF work-places, it could feel like torture. Imagine if you’re being personally harassed or bullied already, and now they have you over a barrel for another month. No, thank you. Imperfect though it may be, it’s better for us in the long run, at least in the current climate.