u asked for studies to prove u wrong & i gave u a 2025 review of 16 papers and now u move the goalposts because u don’t like the results.

it’s mental health. if a ritual helps someone with ptsd and literally changes their heart rate and brain waves, it’s working. hrv and gamma waves don’t just ‘convince themselves’ to change. u can’t say it’s ‘nothing’ just because it’s not a pill.

why u bringing cancer into this? nobody’s saying smoking some plant is gonna cure ur cancer. how u gonna know how people feel emotionally except to ask them?

also i think u can google: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/397594404_Shamanism_as_a_Clinical_Intervention_A_Scoping_Review shamanic healing helps with ptsd and chronic pain by literally changing ur heart rate variability and brain waves

How u objectively prove someone isn’t feeling better when they say so?

What u define as proof if it’s people saying they feel better? Are u saying they don’t?

how’s ur opinion not biased if u don’t know anything about it? aren’t u biased in favor of objectivity?

kinda yeah. i know plenty of people who got help from this type of stuff. they do ayuascha retreat and sort through their shit and go on to do their thing. but nobody wants to hear about that, they wanna hear about the guy who got a dramatic psychosis.

has anyone u know gone thru shamanic healing?

There’s not really any point in trying to support religious magic healing at this point. People already believe in a gigantic amount of scam and have no critical thinking, and you start debating about the exact definition of what is a placebo effect even though it’s one of the only few bits of “critical thinking” knowledge that people have?

have you or has someone u know experienced something like this?

yeah! i’m just not sure if i get it. sometimes i feel like i get it but then it’s like… who is getting it? and then i get confused lol

the sense of self isn’t constant and is totally malleable! i’ve had these experiences where everything is me, so that’s my brainwaves moving real slow. there’s no real self, it’s just if my brain decides to move fast or slow. identity isn’t real.

now i fear my cables lol