You inventing this “no politics on lemmy at all” strawman is all you.

Okay, off my community. Is that better? I can’t tell if you’re being intentionally pedantic or not, but I guess if you’re not, the main issue I’m getting at here is politics is a whack-a-mole where it’s NIMBY until there’s nowhere but /c/politics to talk about it, at which point the baddies win because all dissent is properly quarantined and people have a much easier time pretending nothing is going wrong.

Also can you put all of your personal attacks in the garbage where they belong?

Unlikely. There are a lot of badge bunnies out there.

Your comment was a pain to read. Am I understanding correctly that you’re mostly repeating yourself and ignoring my point about your false dichotomy?

Nobody here is saying we need to invade /c/cutepicsofpuppies with Donald Trump is Bad posts. You’re saying “Get Politics off my Lemmy.” I’m saying somewhere in the middle is best.

We have a rather extreme voter apathy epidemic combined with the resultant diarchy, where the main objective is not solving problems, but ensuring the top two dogs are always on top followed by winning the next election against the other team.

You wrongfully assert 100% of Americans don’t care and don’t do anything; it’s more that a large enough percentage of Americans don’t care and don’t do anything such that the powers that be know they can do whatever awful thing they want to do for their donors.

Again, that angle is largely you seeking solutions to a problem that doesn’t exist; ICE agents aren’t trying to trick people in order to date/befriend them.

As I said, they don’t want anything to do with people who hate them.

You’re constructed an excellent false dichotomy there, haven’t you?

Tons of joke answers and few actual answers, so here’s the opinion of an ex-cop:

What’s your aim? If it’s to identify ICE via speed dating or something to collect a list of local ICE agents, it’ll take weeks, months, or even years years to uncover what they do. ICE agents know quite a few people hate them, so they’re not going to wear their job on their sleeve. In that line of work it’s known as OPSEC. In my personal life, very few people know I was a cop. ICE is even less popular, so they’ll be even more tight about it. Best advice on this front is just keep your ears open for claims of being “taxi drivers,” “garbage collectors,” or other jokes cops often make to describe what they do.

If it’s to avoid dating/befriending ICE agents, all you need to do is let it be known that you hate ICE. Obviously your HR is going to come into the fray if you’re passing out “FUCK ICE” pamphlets, but feel free to get tattoos, bumper stickers, T-shirts, and whatever else you can get your hands on to express yourself, and I promise you ICE agents will avoid you like the plague, though they won’t outwardly state their reasons why.

I don’t want to hang out with people who hate me, you don’t want to hang out with people who hate you, and ICE agents don’t want to hang out with people who hate them. Not only is it unsafe, but it’s simply unpleasant.

Which one is the guy who announced we’re going to pave over Palestine to open a resort?

Did you think he was going to give the Palestinians American visas and comp their moving fees?

Somehow putting uncomfortable conversations into tiny boxes everyone avoids doesn’t feel like the way to stop the rise of the far right.

Enjoy the sand around your head, though.

Evidently the sentiment isn’t having a wide enough reach, as people are crawling into their echo chambers to avoid not having to deal with the fallout of their apathy, handing elections over to the nasties.

Not everyone was German/Italian/Japanese in the 1930s-40s either. Pretty sure those countries still affected others, though.

“No politics please” sounds like a great rule until the results of politics kick down your door and black bag you.

Fighting to remove as many posts as possible on Lemmy when we barely get any posts at all doesn’t make sense; ignore the people requesting you take a popular post down for some potential technicality.

You’re thinking of the world in naive binary Good vs. Evil, handing elections over to the people who, instead of doing a shitty job of fighting genocide (Dem.), would enthusiastically perpetuate it (Rep.).

TL;DR:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/dccd0d0b-9624-43a4-af69-c71d4839b19c.png

Not to mention that isn’t even the discussion we’re having. You missed (or pretended to miss) the part where we’re talking about comparison.

Which is hotter, tea that is 55C or 60C? If your answer is “They are both hot,” you are being obtuse and I hope you at least realize that, even if you can’t stop yourself.

I still don’t buy it.

You two are saying Bernie Sanders, famously pictured getting arrested for marching with MLK, is as racist as people like Strom Thurmond, who filibustered the Civil Rights Act, Tim Scott who said welfare is worse for black people than slavery, or Vivek Ramaswamy who said white supremacy doesn’t exist?

Ain’t no way.

Democrats are just as racist as the Republicans

No way.

There’s a massive difference between being proud of being actively racist (MAGA), defiantly believing it’s not possible to be racist in 2026 because MLK ended racism (garden variety Republicans), forgetting about certain invasions and genocides based on (social) media coverage (which is based on expected viewership for ad revenue, which is based on skin color) (garden variety Democrats), and someone who I would describe as generally “not racist,” i.e. you, I assume if for no other reason than expedience of this discussion.

Pretending all three of the other groups are identical is not productive, intellectually dishonest, and makes fighting or educating them harder.