They don’t set the prices. Developers and Publishers of the game are the ones that do that.
PlayStation has been known to straight up limit and even DENY developers and publishers of indie games on their platform but its strange I never see hate for them very much. And they also have crazy sales on AAA games too.
Its even crazier when that dude realizes that Steam doesn’t even set the prices, the game developers and publishers do.
I feel like people don’t understand this a lot
Yeah the owners of GOG (CD Projekt) aren’t rich either?
Idk man the games you play are designed by groups of people (maybe except our Stardew Valleys and whatnot) and those people spend hours upon hours developing said games.
You know that takes money to make happen right?
You would be happy to know that Steam doesn’t set the sales prices, the developers and publishers of games do that.
So whether you buy their game on GOG or Steam, you are directly supporting the people that set those sales.
Best not to buy any games that go on sales to keep true to your values!
I mean, he is developing the brain chip with his Starfish Neuroscience company but its supposed to be minimally invasive and let’s be real if its between his and Elon Musks (which is NOT minimally invasive and requires surgical implantation) I’m definitely going with his.
I wouldn’t say at this point its all about gaming though. Valve is, but not necessarily Gabe. Which I don’t mind but I could understand how some people wouldn’t like it.
I just think they get way more goodwill from their customers than they probably deserve.
That’s fair. They do a few things I don’t appreciate but overall I like them a lot better than any alternative other than GOG but I do hate that developers don’t update stuff the way it deserves on there sometimes.
Its always good to be a little critical of any service.
But the thing about the sales is that the developers and publishers set the sale price, not Valve. Valve still takes the cut of course.
But the reason you are seeing that most people buy them and don’t play them on there specifically is because it’s just the most used service for gaming. They have a higher userbase than playstation and Xbox combined. And that really just ties in with them being the most customer friendly.
I’m not saying they arent without faults but they are better overall than any of the competition.
Also to add to this PlayStation has been known to limit and straight up restrict indie developers sales prices on their platform sometimes straight up not letting them do it at all. So that’s another reason it all ties together to Valve not being a shit company. I’m sure that Xbox probably does the same thing but haven’t researched it as I sold my Xbox when they did the gamepass price hike this last time.
In my opinion letting indie developers set their own sale prices is good for the industry. But not letting them certainly isn’t.
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/7/224446432324091426/
Me saying “imagine arguing” is the same same as saying “your argument is stupid because” and that is not the same as saying not to argue.
I said imagine arguing the points they argued because they are silly. Lots of storefronts have sales shit epic even gives shit away for free every week and gives 20% back in points when you buy a game fron them but you don’t hear anyone talking about how they “create FOMO” by not participating in their storefront.
Its a dumb argument. That is what “imagine arguing” means in that context. Hope that helps.
And yeah they make the console that you have to pay a fee to use internet on. Valve doesn’t do that. If you stop paying their exorbitant fees to use the internet you pay for already to play their games online then you lose half the functionality of your game that you bought. (For multiplayer ones of course).
Valve also makes systems but yes it isn’t quite the same as how PS and Xbox do it I understand what you are saying. However, everyone acts like Steam is greedy dickheads for charging the exact same rate other platforms charge without also charging you some dumb online play fee which is the real greedy fuckery. Despite them having more users than PlayStation and Xbox combined.
I think its funny that no one calls out the other companies greedy fuckery though. Just the one that is the nicest to their consumers (being steam)
LIKE GOG THAT ALSO TAKES 30%
Where’s your hate for GOG though? I don’t see it.
Yes Proton is Valves own compatibility layer though. They built it in collaboration with Codeweavers but Valve built it with Steam money. Codeweavers needed that money to make it into what it is today and Valve provided it.
And that’s ok that you don’t own any of those systems but you are acting like Steam is unreasonable when the rest of the industry does the same thing.
There is sales on PlayStation and Xbox all the time too but why aren’t most of those games unplayed and more bought on Steam? Because the market decided that was the best platform to buy it on. Do you not think Xbox and PlayStation “create FOMO” by offering sales too or just Steam?
And sure if you want to play old games or Indie games lots of options exist Itch.io is a good one too in addition to GOG.
But that’s not really what’s being talked about is it? This was about which storefront is better for consumers and most gaming consumers are playing AAA titles and of the storefront options for those titles there exist Steam, Epic, Xbox, and PlayStation and on some games itch.io and GOG but like I said before out of all those options Steam is the best one for new games and even old games sometimes when the developers don’t give their GOG versions love like they should.
GOG gets shafted on updates and DLC and also doesn’t even usually have like 70% of new games as an option to buy on them at all. Yes, I too prefer to own games but like I mentioned that isn’t always the best option on GOG because of reasons stated above.
Also my abandonware and some others have had Malware problems in the past although so has Steam but it gets caught on steam usually quicker.
Never said not to argue.
I said imagine your argument being that because a service does sales all the time and consumer relations better than almost all the competition available in the industry that that’s a bad thing because people spend money on said sales.
Its a bit of a shit argument.
“They have so many sales all the time that they force people into spending money they shouldn’t spend! And that’s bad!!”
Also, all those devs are free to use any other platform that doesn’t take 30%.
Remind me again how much PlayStation and Xbox take? Oh yeah, 30% huh.
Here’s a blog post on GOG talking about how many developers abandon their games on there so they don’t get updates or DLC like they do on other platforms https://www.gog.com/forum/general/how_do_games_recieving_updates_work_on_gog
I like GOG and love DRM free games however another point is that many, many games are never even available on GOG to begin with. So what do you do then?
Would you rather buy them on Xbox, PlayStation, Epic or Steam?
Most people choose steam because it is the best out of all those options.
I agree having a DRM free game that you own forever is the best option but 7 times out of 10 a new game won’t even be listed on GOG in the first place and if it is refer back to the link about how they often get abandoned with no updates or DLC and therefore less features than on other platforms.
Also, talking about getting old games to work better I would refer you to the Proton compatibility layer that Valve develops.
Lol everyone always gets mad that dude has yachts.
Do you think that the CEOs of Microsoft and Sony don’t have yachts?
So that’s something they have in common. But consumer good will and overall happiness with the service isn’t. Only one of the companies have that distinction and you know which one it is.
Imagine arguing that creating a service so much better than the competition available in that industry that it drives people to spend the most money on that platform is a bad thing.
Cops are badly out of control and weed should be allowed if someone chooses to do it but yes I agree that libertarianism is stupid.
“libertarians generally advocate for minimal government regulation, believing that businesses should operate freely and regulate themselves through voluntary exchange and competition. They argue that over-regulation can stifle innovation and economic growth.”
So in my opinion, they are dumbasses. Yeah let’s get the Nestles and Monsanto’s of the world to regulate themselves. Honestly just unserious people with no critical thinking skills in my opinion.
It takes you 17 hours to download a 30gb game? Not going to lie, its a bit suspicious how long firgirl repacks take to unpack. In my opinion.
Even a 100gb game should take at max 2-3 hours of download time
Also unzipping locally has never taken me 17hours. Maybe like, an hour tops if your machine isn’t the best.
I’m telling you its weird how her packs do that. You can get the same game on steamrip and it takes 30 mins to download and maybe 10-15 mins to unzip. So what the fuck is her installer doing then?
Yes but then takes 17 straight hours to decompress a 30gb game during install.
Even in other countries using something that is tested and proven for its no logs policy beats taking a stab in the dark and being hopeful that your ISP doesn’t.
You said yourself you “bet” that ISPs in other countries don’t do it but you don’t know. Something like Mullvad has been proven not to keep logs which sounds a lot better than some dudes hunch.
But if you want to gamble with your privacy by all means do it but you shouldn’t act like you know what you’re talking about when you tell people to trust ISPs because you think if you’re in a certain country they don’t spy on you or sell your data.
https://www.pcmag.com/news/mullvad-vpn-hit-with-search-warrant-in-attempted-police-raid
Yeah you’re right man the VPN that got raided and proven to keep no logs is the exact same as ATT that helped the NSA spy on everyone in the USA and has your credit card and address on file.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/how-att-helped-the-nsa-spy-on-millions/
Sure something like NordVPN wouldn’t be trustworthy but come on, saying all VPNs are just as trustworthy as ISPs is absolutely insane
Developers and publishers set the prices of sales like CD Projekt who makes Cyberpunk and has a 65% off sale right now.
So look at that, the company that owns GOG is one of the companies you’re upset about making all those sales and “taking money” from people.
Wheres the hate man? Why not boycott?
Or is that only for Steam and not really about who sets the sales?
I mean if you’re going to be outraged at least have some consistency about it.
Sounds like the only thing you’re upset about that Valve controls is more people use it and the CEO has a yacht. Due to those sales that your beloved owners of GOG set.
ALSO GOG ALSO TAKES A 30% CUT