It isn’t my job personally to worry about the employees of a massive corperation with more money at any given time than I’ll ever see.

I pay the artists writers sometimes not because I think they are owed something for their work, but because I want to reward well done art that I liked. It isn’t how I convince myself that piracy of media produced by large corperations is moral, I think piracy of media produced by large corperations is always moral because large corperations are inherently predatory on all public commons, especially when it comes to IP law. Just look at how they took away the entire concept of things entering the public domain from entire generations.

Hmm, thats hardly different from me. Guess it’s not that lol

This doesn’t make any sense. Bye!

This is silly. I just disagree with I think all of it. Spam is bad and should be against the rules. Part of what made me personally so ready to leave reddit was the toxicity, and the favorite toy of the toxic redditor is the downvote.

Beehaw only defederated from lemmy.world and a few others, btw. It isn’t isolated, and it is fine IMO.

Maybe this disagreement is all opinion, you just don’t like anything but a fully curated feed. Did you never browse by new? I think the way things are here is fun.

I’m probably only gunna wait for one more response if you wanna say something else. I really wanna be done here, so please say what you wanna say and we can both move on with our lives

Simple. If the post is old and has no upvotes, I assume everyone else thought it was bad.

But really, on a post by post basis, I make up my own mind? Do you not? Like, do you decide whether or not you like a post based on the votes it has? Because I just, like it or dont like it.

Dude… You should get paid for this, you are too skilled at being annoying to do it for free.

It was just an example of a functional link aggregator with no downvotes. There are others you could look at. None of it had fucking anything to do with federation, or your opinion of the community, or anything like that.

Can we be done? Do you have some last things you wanna say before I leave and don’t come back?

Lots of bad content posted excessively is spam. I refuse to let you handwave that, that is what spam is. But I’d like to be done here, I’m not enjoying this back and forth. You keep whatever opinion you want.

Neither of us are going to gain anything from this continuing.

I can actively observe no downvotes working fine in several instances. Not having downvotes doesn’t bother me in the slightest.

You don’t believe it would work, no matter what I say. You think not being able to downvote a bad post would ruin everything.

I don’t want to talk about this anymore. If you want to see how it works to confirm or deny your assumptions, just go look at beehaw.org or something.

If I was moderating a small community and someone flooded it with unwanted content, I would consider that spam, which I would have against the rules.

So it would be a perfectly reasonable ban for an explicit rules violation.

They never are on the front page. Idk why you don’t get this. If I sort by new I see them but only then. If I did see a post on the front page that I don’t like, obviously it is just a matter of taste. It doesn’t bother me that I can’t downvote it.

The situation you described is asinine. First of all, a post with 100 upvotes should see the light of day, even if 500 don’t like it. Something that recieves a large amount of upvotes and downvotes is controversial, not a bad post or irrelevant. It also assumes there are no moderators to correct things that are truly against what that community wants to see.

For posts that are severly off topic or is against the rules in some way, that is what moderators are for.

You already said the youtube thing.

Upvoting posts that are relevant or good quality and ignoring the rest does work though. There are several instances right now where it is working.

It works perfectly fine as a content curation method. I have no way to prove this for this, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it works better.

Not really in my experience. I can tell when something is disliked by how few upvotes it recieves. Instead of bad posts sitting at the bottom with -20 votes, they sit at the bottom with 1 vote. Functionally the same.

Youtube removing the dislike button was more about their attempt to obfuscate public opinion on things like movie trailers, game trailers, and the various videos related to big PR decisions by companies. The companies posting these things wanted a hosting place where only positive interactions are allowed, regardless of the topic in question, and youtube accommodated them.

It is still infinitly possible to distinguish bad videos from good ones without a dislike button on youtube. But it is much more difficult now to find out how many people agree with you that a video is bad, which used to be nice to know on things like movie trailers, game trailers, and big PR decisions.

I mean, generally getting downvoted in an argument is a matter of course, at least until people who you aren’t arguing with chime in.

Also a lot of what you are saying doesn’t really make sense to me? I feel like I’m not sure we agree what we disagree about.

Honestly the shit I got downvoted the most for was just standing up for trans people, reddit is full of transphobes.

Ok, I logged into jerboa.

Still no downvotes. Just because some apps can show the downvotes from the api doesn’t mean they are federated.

For the record, downvote me. Please. I don’t care. I like not having a downvote because it doesn’t allow me to downvote other people. It helps keep me in a better headspace.

I don’t see how that addresses any of what I said. If anything this seems like this would mean the subreddits that blocked people with no karma weren’t even doing it to block trolls, just new users.

I didn’t care about my karma or any specific persons, I like to get into arguments about stuff and that is how you get downvoted. I just don’t like the behaviour a karma system motivated.

I hadn’t thought about it until just now but IDK if that number is accurate. My instance doesn’t have downvotes, so if you view my profile from lemmy.one it might look like I have a higher karma than if you look from lemmy.world, I’m not sure.

Take it all wirh a grain of salt I say

If you downvote my comments they do not register on my instance. It is more than the lack of a visible button, the downvotes do not federate.

Edit: to be clear, this post is on lemmy.world, so I can be downvoted here (even though I won’t see it unless I browse from lemmy.world). And from lemmy.world you can appear to downvote things on instances without downvotes, but you are basically just downvoting the local copy of the thing. The downvote never gets sent through, it just lives on your instance.

There were many subreddits that did not allow participation unless someone had a karma over a certain threshold. For many of them the threshold was pretty low, only meant to stop brand new accounts and trolls, but still.

Additionally, the “people who farmed it” often did so because a reddit account with a high karma score was literally worth money to adspammers and people running bots.

The karma system contributed to what made reddit bad.