@Lemmyoutofhere Also, snowboots. I have lost a few fave pairs that poped out way before their expiry date because of having to trudge through constant salt. I get using *a bit* when it is icy to prevent falls, esp. on slopes or uneven ground, but the sheer amount used rn is ridiculous.

@cecilkorik Exactly. Having lived in Edmonton for years, I *know* there is a better way. We need to give up wishing we were Vancouver.