Yes and maybe blue is red and up is down and 1=2 and so on. We can dive into all sorts of nonsense that brings us nowhere or we can go along with the means that all minds fundamentally function on and of which has brought us advancement unseen by any creature on this planet or any other we are aware of. For something vulgar it sure is functioning better than literally any other cognitive structure ever created. You’re literally responding to me not through the fruit of any political or religious or cultural doctrine but through the vulgar fruits of science.

Increase human wellbeing and decrease humanities impact on the environment. Have an ideas, test it in a way that is measurable. If it does not work to achieve the above goal then don’t do it. You’re treating political philosophy like religion2.0

You can’t know, you assume with mathematical confidence developed from experimentation but absolute knowledge aka above typically five sigma cannot be gained without said experiment. To be clear, what is “known” by science is an assumption that has a known error bounds given the information we have currently. There is nothing produced by the scientific method or any other that is absolute beyond a priori knowledge aka that which is self defined or known independent of any measurement or test. Typically a priori knowledge is not terribly useful in reality. It’s mostly circular logical, shit that’s true by definition like the statement “a bachelor is an unmarried male” or “1 is 1” aka not useful for shit.

You see a lot of appeals to something being true by definition in religion. It’s true because God said it and I know God said it because it’s in this book and if it’s in this book God said it and if God said it it’s true, aka circular nonsense. There’s no need of such nonsense in political philosophy.

I say perpetually dedicate some percentage of resources to extreme experimentation (moon shots), particularly in the realm of political philosophy. You can never be certain you’ve fallen into a local minimum and just around the corner is a global minimum you’re missing out on. Don’t be a dogmatic slave in short. I do want to temper this with reasonable morality as if individuals involved should be knowledgeable and consenting to said experimentation.

Why is it vulgar? Also if it’s anti-science it’s probably bullshit like religion or other such nonsense. Yes if there is new evidence that contradicts what is known then what is known needs to be reevaluated, not held onto like dogma (like anti-scientific views). Where do you think those already known laws of physics engineers use comes from? Testing and experimentation.

We can reasonably define human wellbeing and happiness in a way that is measurable. We can definitely define environmental impact and environmental wellbeing in ways that are measurable. The goal is to maximize the wellbeing of our species and our environment we depend on.

Now if you believe that an anti-scientific method will get you to an optimal state that’s fine, you’re free to think whatever you want. I simply disagree. At the end of the day every last mind only knows through experimentation and measurement. For instance I can touch my nose through experimentation and measurement when I was an infant. Now if you think you know something through some other means beyond experimentation and measurement it would be intriguing to discover this new mechanism unknown to any human or creature ever in history.

The absolute core of any political philosophy should be that it is testable and the goal is measurably increasing human wellbeing. It shouldn’t matter from which philosophical house a policy comes from if it works then it works, if it does not then it doesn’t. Also how did we identify the root causes of modern ailments? With measurements? You keep running and then legitimizing via the scientific method but ensuring it is an unnamed party in the endeavor.

Socialism has been around arguably for two centuries (in some different named form for much longer) and yet we don’t have even a single nation existing in what anyone would consider to be a utopia. I’m not denouncing anything, just arguing there is room for improvement and that it is through experimentation and measurement we can gain that improvement.

The singular most important philosophy and most fruitful by far humanity has yet to create unfortunately is not socialism or any other political ideology or religion or culture but science. Science should be the core of any political ideology full stop.

It is through science that we know. We should know the best structure through which to organize people and commerce, to organize power and production and by best I mean that which produces the most human wellbeing while being reasonably neutral towards nature of which we require for survival.

At the beginning and end of it all Truth is king, we all must obey what is true, and our primary focus as minds should be discovering truth as best we can manage. Testing and measurement is so far the best means we have regardless of the other creative, colorful, and downright beautiful mental constructs human minds create. We must test and measure to know, otherwise it is no different than religion.

You make a claim, try it and test it. If it does not work then try the next. Science should be the core of political philosophy.

I’ve been concerned that since the invention of science and it’s now centuries of success that science is not the core of a political ideology. At best it’s a shit eating sidekick that gets called upon anytime someone needs to bolster their legitimacy. Most political ideology floats around as is without any concern to prove itself measurably.

If one were to control a nation what they control is the potential to run many experiments. Even without intending concepts are being tested. Maybe what your actual concern is some concepts may not operate on the small scale and begin to operate at a higher echelon. Now that makes them particularly difficult to test.

Ultimately what should be done is that humans should come together globally to run experiments to prove to themselves what actually works over a span of a generation or two and then revisit and question on a regular basis. Now that would be enlightened behavior.

Why just make a bet and guess? We can literally experiment and know. Why have “feelings” when we can have knowledge.

Hopefully, it would be unfortunate if we regress going forward. This next generation is giving me some doubts but we will see. It would be cool if we could get another global hippie peace movement going.

Yeah, there’s a push to no ownership or everything as a service with user data collection and ads. A more than good reason to use and support FOSS and non-profits. We’re starting to see governments adopting Linux so that’s good, corporations will follow and maybe just maybe there will be a proper pushback on that trend.

Anything is a sex toy if you try hard enough.

Typically when a service is free you are the product. This is a good example.

Solar Punk, here we go!

All policies should be testable and tested. If it works to increase the HDI and decrease environmental impact then I would consider that good enough to implement. If a policy doesn’t increase the wellbeing of the society and humanity as a shared organism on earth then it may not be a good policy. If it’s neutral then it’s an arbitrary call.

Getting people fighting over political identity is a classic move. If they dare befriend one another then that’s a problem. Remember, never get over your differences, the rich and powerful depend on it. Politics is religion2.0 where you are unquestionably right and anyone who disagrees with you is the spawn of Satan sent to earth to destroy everything and you should hate them eternally without an ounce of doubt.

The trick is to get them fighting about anything besides how the rich are abusing the poor. Get them fighting over race, culture, sexuality, political affiliation, immigration, gender, really anything will work. The moment they start waking up just hit them with a new crisis like an impromptu war or domestic terror attack, even a pandemic if you really need to.

You don’t need to be the champion or the rebel or anyone else in-between if you don’t want to be. All I would prefer is you be kind to yourself and others.