lilypad [she/her, pup/pup's]

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Cake day: October 26th, 2023
  • lilypad [she/her, pup/pup's]@hexbear.nettoaskchapo@hexbear.net•How could explain 'patriarchy serves capitalism' to a liberal? [sorry I'm a n00b]English
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    7 days ago

    Preface: im not terribly smart on all this.

    Short version: patriarchy serves as a vector for reproducing social structures and preparing children for their futures so that they fill their roles within society. It is itself a system of a hierarchy of personhood (and violence), but it exists alongside capitalism and not because of/in service to it. Primary function as far as i can tell of patriarchy is to ensure births (under capitalism this is beneficial in many ways (e.g. replenish the reserve body of labour)). Patriarchy serves to make women property and ensure control over reproductive labor.

    longer rambly version (but still simplified)

    So, im not super well read, but the way i view it is that patriarchy (or rather, the western gender system which has patriarchy as a characteristic (dw ill get into it below)) exists alongside capitalism. It existed before capitalism and had synergy with prior economic structures and systems as well as capitalism. So, patriarchal control (really, a hierarchy og personhood backed up by violence all along gender lines) developed alongside the development of capitalism, and doesnt really serve capitalism in a hierarchical sense, but is synergystic with capitalism (and vice versa). Any economic system that requires laborers, but especially capitalism which requires a reserve body of labour, benefits from a system that ensures births, which patriarchy does quite well by subjugating people who can give birth and forcing them into that labor (e.g. prime example is the nuclear family).

    As an aside, our gender system is binary and patriarchal, meaning it defines 3 classes (men (i.e. cishet men), women (i.e. cishet women), and the delinquent class (anyone who doesnt have the same relations to reproductive labour as the other two classes (so, gay men, lesbians, trans people, bisexual people, etc.))). Additionally it defines a hierarchy of personhood and violence, with men on the top. (Also this is super simplified version it plays out in much more complicated ways than this).

    Considering and using the terms defined in the previous paragraph, within the context of the nuclear family patriarchy+capitalism establishes a social contract whereby the man works, is exploited, and brings home a wage to support his family. The woman works in the home, being maid, therapist, punchingbag (physical or emotional), and most importantly to this system childbearer and rearer.

    Patriarchy also serves as a really important vector for reproducing social structures. It trains children in their future roles. Young boys learn that they are future masters but also future wage slaves, and young girls learn that they are future homemakers (to put it nicely…). This helps capitalism by training the young boy to accept oppression in exchange for getting to be the master of his house/have dominion over women (unless they are owned by another man (yes property relations are in play)), and trains the young girl to accept oppression in exchange for some financial security through marriage (remember that women until recently couldnt work, couldnt have a bank account or get a loan, etc.)

    Theres way more that could be said, and many people smarter and more educated than me who could say it.

  • lilypad [she/her, pup/pup's]@hexbear.nettochapotraphouse@hexbear.net•Yo, I really hope you're all doing wellEnglish
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    14 days ago

    Doing well. But also terrible. Quit smoking a month ago and havent fallen off yet. Havent had any pot or alcohol in weeks either.

    Unfortunately (cw despair)

    i find myself consumed by the desire to do something, anything, to help others or hinder the various horrible projects around me, but am paralyzed by my own mental illness and lack of a clear path forward or ability to take action in general.

    Thank you for being an inspiring force in the world and taking care of people around you

  • lilypad [she/her, pup/pup's]@hexbear.nettochapotraphouse@hexbear.net•Type of Person: Radlibs Who Call Themselves Communists and Refuse to Read and So They Just Constantly End Up Regurgitating Western Imperialist Talking PointsEnglish
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    16 days ago

    There are many people who devote their entire lives and work to anarchy

    To be clear, i wasnt trying to disparage anarchists in general. The anarchists in my life are generally some of the people who have the best grasp on group dynamics, effective mobilization, and how to show up and build community.

    faux-radicals in the west will denounce anything and everything, seeming to be the most radical of all but really supporting the status quo

    There is so much of this around me and its exhausting. I dont even know how to counter it, not because i dont have the information but just because the pure time and energy and effort is so much.

    Also re nordic countries, if i have to explain to someone one more goddamn time how the nordic model is fucked, doctors with 1000 patient caseloads, denial of trans healthcare, internment schools for sami people that shut down not all that long ago, continuing destruction of sami rights and way of life (looking at you fosen), rampant liberalism and neoliberalism, the way various parties are trying to destroy the healthcare system a la nhs in the uk, etc etc etc… Well my head might just pop. Not to mention the horrible racism. The amount of people ive heard argue that their version of the n word isnt actually the english n word and is unrelated and therefore ok to say is just so depressing.

    learn to exercise some epistemic humility until they have a framework by means of which to judge things that they can actually defend.

    Im not a maoist but the phrase “no investigation no right to speak” should be used way fucking more istg

  • lilypad [she/her, pup/pup's]@hexbear.nettochapotraphouse@hexbear.net•Type of Person: Radlibs Who Call Themselves Communists and Refuse to Read and So They Just Constantly End Up Regurgitating Western Imperialist Talking PointsEnglish
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    16 days ago

    lines of objection radlibs raise to such states are usually incoherent (and at best deeply hypocritical), and they will oscillate between talking like an anarchist and a neoliberal point to point based on rhetorical convenience

    This is some of the people in my life and they are absolutely insufferable to have any sort of conversation with politically. “Communists are all fascists waiting to seize power” and shit like that. This one person, they say this shit and then turn around and say “i dont know what to think and believe, but i have faith in anarchy” and im just sitting there like wtf you literally just called me and people i respect fascists and then admit to not having any ideological framework??? Like, if you dont actively develop your ideology you will end up adopting the cultural default ideology, we have talked about this and they agreed with me, like, deeply unserious people using punk and anarchist aesthetics because it “looks cool”.

  • lilypad [she/her, pup/pup's]@hexbear.nettoMain, home of the dope ass bear.@hexbear.net•About empathy for IsraelisEnglish
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    28 days ago

    I just want to put this out there: from a haaretz poll, 31% of secular israelis believe that when an enemy city is captured, all inhabitants should be killed. That number only goes up as people get more orthodox.

    Thats not to say they deserve the inhumane treatment they have visited upon palestinians to be visited upon them. But it is to say that never again is an incomplete sentence. It should read never again, by any means neccessary.

    (cw sv) And ultimately, dying in a missile attack is far more humane than

    being gangremovedd to death.

    I dont know what dezionification should look like. But im pretty sure that if its done by the west it will look like denazification - that is to say, a small number of elites will be blamed and killed/imprisoned, and the people on the ground committing atrocities will walk free. Their children and grandchildren will receive zionist indoctrination, and no real education about why zionism is bad will take place.

  • lilypad [she/her, pup/pup's]@hexbear.nettoaskchapo@hexbear.net•What does maturing and growing up mean to you? The widely agreed upon liberal definition of this is horrible so lets redefine thisEnglish
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    28 days ago

    Gonna say that “growing up” isnt a thing. We are all “children” in some ways and “adults” in others. Our growth is often nonlinear and we see “regression” all the time. We dont grow in the same directions either. Ive met people who arent even legally adults who have a better handle on some things than i do, and ive met people 30 years my senior who i have out-grown in some ways. The world is a cruel and traumatizing place, and it will determine how we have to grow. Our conditions will determine what we can learn, the best we can do is show up and learn it. Who is a grown up or who acts like a grown up will always be culturally determined, and therefore no absolute metric may ever be applied. The process of growing up will never be complete, and i will always be a so-called child in one way or another.

    Tldr reject tradition embrace the constant struggle of personal growth free from cultural markers.