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    Yeah it turns out they’re just forcibly uprooting people who are happy where they’re at.

    But Liu and other residents allege that the authorities are coercing them into signing away their older, much larger farm homes, demolishing them by force if necessary and not adequately compensating residents for their homes. The residents say the new, smaller houses or high-rise apartments they are being moved into are either too far from their fields, too expensive or ill-suited for their needs as farmers.

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      I don’t doubt that there were some cases of the government overstepping, or that you can find a couple people out of the hundreds of millions who are dissatisfied. But the figure of hundred of millions refers to people who were living in extreme poverty, which is defined as less than $2 per day, some of the poorest people on the planet. That’s not a lifestyle that’s worth preserving.

      Coming back from that tangent though, am I correct that the general economic system and the existence of billionaires are not the problems that you have with China?

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        Since you bring up their income, do you have some data for the flip side of the coin - how much was cost of living for those people? I grew up with my Chinese dad telling me about buying the day’s vegetables for like a nickel. Granted that was before the 80s, so I’d be interested in any data you have to share.

        I’m not op.

        Also, a bit of a wry aside, you might actually struggle to find people voicing their dissatisfaction due to the fear of the government relayed multiple times in the article :)

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          The $2 per day is a figure used by the World Bank. According to this page:

          The welfare of people living in different countries can be compared by adjusting for differences in the purchasing power of their currencies.

          I don’t know the exact details of the World Bank’s methodology, but I believe the $2 figure is adjusted based on purchasing power.

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            That sent me down a cool rabbit hole, thanks!

            Industrialization is a hell of a drug. During the same period apparently the wealth gap shot up, so chinas got that to contend with. Best of luck to them.