uh, no, without socialization you still are aware of things, you just don’t have words for them or anything. You can still feel pain and hunger and suffering
Sentience does not guarantee “consciousness.” Parrots, ravens, and dolphins are (probably) not humans. Humans are “conscious” due to the ways we interact with the world. If you grow brain tissue and deprive it of the human experience then it shouldn’t end up a human. But I get the precaution.
Consciousness is merely what comes after the transformation of quantity into quality. There’s a continuity in the development of the system of sentience, and this remains stable only up to the point of discontinuity, which indicates its transition from the quantity of sentience into a new quality i.e. sapience.
I doubt they’ll grow it in a lab with little pieces of brain tissue, but there is a point where that happens.
This is just nonsense and I don’t know where you’re even getting it from. Can you produce an example of a human that displays sentience but not consciousness without some serious brain injury or developmental defect plausibly causing it? If not, what immense epistemic load is being accounted for with such a huge assumption?
If this is just more bad science about Genie or one of those, I swear to God . . .
i think most people now think that consciousness doesn’t require being able to communicate in language. hence all the interest in Genie and other feral children, animals looking at themselves in the mirror, etc.
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uh, no, without socialization you still are aware of things, you just don’t have words for them or anything. You can still feel pain and hunger and suffering
Any animal can feel pain and hunger and suffering. That’s sentience.
Yeah that’s my point, lol, humans are animals, genetically creating living brain tissue is probably going to great conscious beings at some point
Sentience does not guarantee “consciousness.” Parrots, ravens, and dolphins are (probably) not humans. Humans are “conscious” due to the ways we interact with the world. If you grow brain tissue and deprive it of the human experience then it shouldn’t end up a human. But I get the precaution.
Consciousness is merely what comes after the transformation of quantity into quality. There’s a continuity in the development of the system of sentience, and this remains stable only up to the point of discontinuity, which indicates its transition from the quantity of sentience into a new quality i.e. sapience.
I doubt they’ll grow it in a lab with little pieces of brain tissue, but there is a point where that happens.
Do you think dolphins don’t have consciousness?
I meant sapience I guess
This is just nonsense and I don’t know where you’re even getting it from. Can you produce an example of a human that displays sentience but not consciousness without some serious brain injury or developmental defect plausibly causing it? If not, what immense epistemic load is being accounted for with such a huge assumption?
If this is just more bad science about Genie or one of those, I swear to God . . .
I think I’ll just shut up & take maos advice tbh
are you saying babies aren’t conscious
They’re sentient. So obviously don’t kill them, but most people would disagree with that logic…
i think most people now think that consciousness doesn’t require being able to communicate in language. hence all the interest in Genie and other feral children, animals looking at themselves in the mirror, etc.