• @barsoap@lemm.ee
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    11 month ago

    John Deere

    Illinois

    boston dynamics

    Massachusetts.

    …I mean they may recruit in the valley and have offices there but they’re not part of the business/VC culture there. And neither seeks trillions of dollars to sink into silicon.

    Ultimately, however, I don’t think society is ready for robots that do our menial labor. We need some form of UBI, otherwise the robots will in fact just be terking our jerbs.

    UBI is going to come one way or the other, question being whether we will have to fight neofeudal lords first.

    And it won’t be Musk or any of the valley guys ketamine and executing on evil plans doesn’t mix, it might not even be American, it might be… wait, yes. A Nestle+Siemens merger buying up Boston Dynamics and other companies having actually useful products. Nestle has evilness nailed down, Siemens is a big investment bank (with attached household appliance factory) and still miffed that laws forbid them from bribing foreign officials, and the rest provide the tech.

    The Chinese are another possibility, as in they have the capacity, though I can’t quite see tankies actually going for the abolishment of work.

    As a particularly relevant example, you’ll notice that there’s no robot physically painting (not printing!) the images generated by image generation, because it’s that much harder.

    I don’t think it’s that hard. The robot would be a slightly more involved plotter or a standard 6-axis arm, to train the model you don’t need to hook it up to the robot you could hook it up to a painting program, we’re quite good at simulating oil paint, including brush angle and rotation and everything, graphics tablets can detect those things and programs have been making use of it for quite a while. Might not go the whole way but far enough to only need fine-tuning once you hook up the robot.

    • @papertowels
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      11 month ago

      Regardless of where folks are located, I haven’t seen anything that suggests that affecting things in the physical realm is of equal difficulty to the digital realm, so it still makes sense to me that purely digital improvements are made faster.

      Re: robot painter

      I actually found this video which is fascinating, although the pieces it seems to make are… currently mediocre. Idk if you’ve found any videos on machines leveraging brush angle/rotation - using “techniques” like these are actually what interests me about this space and why I differentiated it from “printing”

      • @barsoap@lemm.ee
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        31 month ago

        The robot seems to use angle at least a bit, I have no idea how oil actually works so don’t ask me to judge its proficiency. All I know is that my tablet has angle and rotation and I’m not using it because sculpting doesn’t. Never went beyond pencil when it comes to 2d and realised that an outline is not a planar cut through an object not while practising drawing but while writing a shader.