• MacN'Cheezus
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    15 months ago

    Okay, look. Attacking their character was uncalled for and I apologize for that. I’ve met some fairly awful people who were on welfare but also some really good ones.

    But the point is, you said “anyone can be successful if they aren’t paying for shit” and I gave you an example of people where that’s largely not the case. Doesn’t matter if that’s because of illness, disability, or character flaws, “anyone” means “anyone”. So shut up and just admit you were wrong.

    • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      No. The point is people on welfare are paying for shit. This guy didn’t even pay for his housing. Nobody is getting free housing from the government unless they’re a 90 year old veteran in a VA Hospice facility.

      You also didn’t give any examples. So no I’m not just going to go away.

      • MacN'Cheezus
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        15 months ago

        Okay, well you made the thesis that anyone can be successful if they aren’t paying for shit, so the burden of proof is on you, not me. And you don’t even seem to believe it yourself, because you said here that there’s always idiots who will fail no matter what.

        Sounds like you already destroyed your own argument, so I think we’re done here. Have a good day.

        • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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          25 months ago

          I could just leave this, but I’m not that good of a person. Can you identify the difference between the words “can” and “will”?

          • MacN'Cheezus
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            15 months ago

            Alright, so you admit that you were just arguing in bad faith then?

            Because if that was what you intended to say all along, your statement is essentially meaningless, as it would basically read “anyone can make it if they aren’t paying for shit, unless they fail”.

            Like I said, we’re done here.

            • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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              25 months ago

              I’m not typing in French again am I?

              It’s pretty simple. You don’t need to make a thesis out of it.