• @hOrni@lemmy.world
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      3126 days ago

      On one hand I totally agree, but on the other I would like to see billionaires on the guillotine.

      • @orcrist@lemm.ee
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        3326 days ago

        There’s no doubt that Israelis are killing Palestinian people in much larger numbers than Palestinians are killing Israelis. Many people have many views on who is responsible for what, and there are a lot of difficult and complicated discussions that one might have, but for you to forget about all of the Palestinians who lost their lives is just disgraceful.

        • @Serinus@lemmy.world
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          2026 days ago

          And vice versa. It’s known as the most complicated political quagmire of centuries. If you’re rooting for strictly one side or the other, you’re probably wrong.

          Yes, it’s perfectly reasonable to want the war to stop. Once you start going farther than that…

          Don’t allow people to push you to an extreme because you want to view your argument as a team sport.

          • @Tinidril@midwest.social
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            2326 days ago

            Yeah, fuck those 4 year old terrorists. They didn’t deserve heads anyways. Those terrorists in graveyards deserved to be dug up. Controlled demolition of universities is necessary because most of the bricks are terrorists. If a handful of terrorists hide in a hospital, the only logical thing to do is bomb the fuck out of the hospital.

            Nothing about how the IDF is behaving looks like targeted attacks on Hamas. Military experts everywhere have been telling Israel since the beginning that their tactics would fail and result in mass civilian casualties and a strengthened Hamas. Israel does it anyways because killing civilians is the objective. Destroying homes, hospitals, schools, universities, religious institutions, and even graveyards is the objective. Everything that ties the Palestinian people to their land is being destroyed in a bald faced effort to drive them away. That is genocide, and that is terrorism.

              • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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                1426 days ago

                Look at any news source. Literally any of them. Israel has repeatedly attached Gaza’s healthcare infrastructure.

                  • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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                    1526 days ago

                    Lmao. So Israel didn’t have a general give a CNN news crew a tour of a hospital basement after fighting through that hospital?

                    This shit is freely available on the web. It’s not obscure, it’s not behind paywalls, and it’s 100% a war crime.

                  • @Tinidril@midwest.social
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                    1226 days ago

                    I don’t. The reality is in the news every single day. There is a reason why Israel is spending millions on a disinformation campaign and still losing the PR war, and it’s not a sudden resurgence of antisemitism. Israel is very quickly becoming a pariah nation. Even US support is starting to crack.

    • @CptEnder@lemmy.world
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      1026 days ago

      This is ultimately the Jedi philosophy. Only use lethal force to defend oneself or others.

      If the Oct 7 and ensuring events happened during, say that High Republic, the Jedi would be despatched to buffer the warzone. Then meditate between both sides like access to places of worship and settlement zoning, arrest anyone on both sides committing crimes against the Republic (kidnappers and war criminals) which would in turn please citizens on both sides. Then probably install a small Jedi outpost/temple to act as local peacekeepers. All to prevent more death, which is ultimately one of the main tenants of the Jedi Order.

      One could argue Luke’s actions are the result of defense of others needed so direly after years of slaughter and against an indiscriminate killing machine by the Empire that the loss of life, albeit great, was justified.

      • @ssj2marx@lemmy.ml
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        125 days ago

        The whole point of the prequels is that the Jedi were kinda shit and supported the status quo, even as Palpatine took over the Republic and formed it into a highly militarized empire. So yeah the Jedi probably would accomplish little of note for decades while the Palestinian situation got worse and worse.

        A just government would have retaliated against Zionists after the Nakba, permanently destroying their ability to wage war and empowering the Palestinian government to prevent a repeat of the tragedy. A just and competent government never would have let zionist terrorists do what they did in the first place, and would have presided over a peaceful transition from colonial to local rule, resulting in a multireligious and multiethnic Palestine.