• FuglyDuck
    link
    fedilink
    English
    55 months ago

    One person. That’s all it takes.

    They find the person shopping or something, routine. Spritz some flu into their face. (Well, more discretely, but yeah.)

    They go to the hospital, pay the guy a visit when, spritz some MRSA on his linens or something. Plenty of opportunity. Even better, spritz it on everyone’s linens so it looks like an outbreak.

    Slip in, visit the guy and inject a stroke causing drug. Maybe even something as innocuous as just injecting an air bubble into his artery.

    Maybe a small support team. But really, you think Boeing doesn’t already have a hitter on the payroll?

      • FuglyDuck
        link
        fedilink
        English
        6
        edit-2
        5 months ago

        Well, I have not done the injecting bit, but I have just walked into more than one ICU… It’s not hard. Nurses and security both are over staffed and underpaid.

        (I work in contract security- at one point part of my job was pen testing. Chilled with an interesting fellow named Edgar, while waiting to get caught. Didn’t have anyone to talk to, so, we just chatted. Mostly he chatted.)

        harder at night but only because there’s fewer people.

        Unless there’s a specific reason someone needs high security… the security is largely a joke.

        • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          15 months ago

          So the fact that you got paid to tell them their ICU was effectively open to the public doesn’t ring any alarm bells that that’s not supposed to be the case?

          • FuglyDuck
            link
            fedilink
            English
            25 months ago

            There’s quite a bit of difference between “open to the public” and “easy to penetrate”. The reason we were pentesting for them is to figure out how bad it was, and where we needed to focus for improvement. It’s not hard to get into, especially considering that most ICU’s allow guests during certain times.

            security is always a balancing act between being secure and pretty much everything else. A building with no doors or windows is far more secure, but also pretty much useless. a working hospital- especially large ones- have small army of people working there; as well as veritable hordes of people visiting for dozens of different reasons on a regular basis; It’s almost impossible to verify that everyone in the building is supposed to be there; and the risk of someone being an assassination target with out that person knowing about it and discussing it with the staff is extremely rare.

            All this to say, if Boeing wanted to get someone dead at a hospital, it would be trivial for them. Maybe expensive, but functionally trivial.

            • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              15 months ago

              Killing someone is always trivial. That’s not the sticking point. The sticking point is making it look like an accident or natural death and failing that, not getting caught. That’s where the exploding number of people who need to be paid off comes into play.

              • FuglyDuck
                link
                fedilink
                English
                25 months ago

                And we’re back to… one or two people… Maybe a few suppliers for the virus/drugs/whatever. But that can be obtained in places that don’t ask too many questions, and Boeing has the resources to do that. They don’t even need to be black market.

                • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  15 months ago

                  You also have to pay off or kill any witnesses; anybody involved in security; the smugglers that transported the stuff without the FBI, NSA, and CIA tracking a bio attack; the people from the places fun things like MRSA went missing from; their security and witnesses; etc.

                  There’s a reason the go to is knife the guy in the alley and take their credit cards and ID. That’s one person. If there was a plot to kill this guy it’s right up there with the movie Burn After Reading.

                • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  15 months ago

                  You’re making this hard for me. Do I continue giving you sarcastic answers knowing you’re just going to go back to grade school insults? Or do I tell you some of my personal history and give up some privacy?

                  Eh, fuck it, it’s already out there. I was in the part of the Army we pay to kill people. So yeah we thought about that quite a lot and got a chance to put our thoughts into action too.

                  Also, if you’re going to keep trying to insult me I’m going to insist you at least kiss me first.

      • @Tryptaminev@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        35 months ago

        Yes you can lol. Do you think ICU wards are some high security facility? At worst you would have to get someone admissioned to the same hospital, be a visitor and on the way out pass by the other room quickly.