Lemmy will have a responsibility to thousands of users, only Lemmy is a federation. People here will come to agreements on various topics and political issues and it won’t take long before the community is split on one.
Who calls the shots when everyone has equal say? That’s when groups and hate start.
I’m not saying everyone needs to agree politically. It’s that on a long enough timeline, you’ll either be here in agreement or disdain over the political climate chosen by Lemmy together.
There’s no such thing as “Lemmy together”, Lemmy servers are individual instances of “Lemmy software” created and managed by different individuals that are totally independent from each other.
It’s like individual subreddits, managed by different mods, each one with it’s own rules and beliefs.
Weren’t some subreddits split and hated each other? YES
Did that make reddit not valuable as a platform? NO because there were still many subs with amazing people and quality content.
When you have millions of people, divisions are inevitable, it will surely happen here if Lemmy gets enough traction, but I don’t see it as a problem, reddit was fine regardless of it, Lemmy will be fine as well.
“Who calls the shots when everyone has equal say?” this is pretty much one of the core design goals of federated services. You get say in your server. People will federate or defederate naturally between servers, that’s… The point.
it won’t take long before the community is split on one.
People are always “split” on all kinds of topics… Conflicts and disagreements are part of the human experience and impossible to avoid… The question is how you deal with conflicts… Trying to avoid or suppress them doesn’t work…
Who calls the shots when everyone has equal say?
Nobody calls the shots, that’s the entire point… People are free to form communities and run their communities however they see fit… If a community has an issue with another community in significant enough ways, they will block each other and that’s it…
And it’s not like this is anything knew… The internet is inherently diverse when it comes to different opinions, and that’s ok…
it won’t take long before the community is split on one.
People are always “split” on all kinds of topics… Conflicts and disagreements are part of the human experience and impossible to avoid… The question is how you deal with conflicts… Trying to avoid or suppress them doesn’t work…
Who calls the shots when everyone has equal say?
Nobody calls the shots, that’s the entire point… People are free to form communities and run their communities however they see fit… If a community has an issue with another community in significant enough ways, they will block each other and that’s it…
And it’s not like this is anything knew… The internet is inherently diverse when it comes to different opinions, and that’s ok…
This didn’t happen because of ideology or differing views, this happened because the beehawk admins want a heavily moderated community and at the moment, they cannot do that due to too many users joining lemmy.
I’m not a lemmy admin, there were some who argued that there were better ways to address those issues, but that’s their reasoning for this, according to them, temporary de-federalisation.
I tried. Can’t join any of them. This was actually my 10th server I signed up for and it finally let me in. The rest mention a validation email that never comes.
Are you saying that everyone should have the same political opinions? I don’t think so.
Each individual has the right to have their own opinions, and they have the right to express them, no matter how we might like them or not.
Blocking features exist for that reason, if something is too much for you to bear, block it and move on.
Like reddit?
Lemmy will have a responsibility to thousands of users, only Lemmy is a federation. People here will come to agreements on various topics and political issues and it won’t take long before the community is split on one.
Who calls the shots when everyone has equal say? That’s when groups and hate start.
I’m not saying everyone needs to agree politically. It’s that on a long enough timeline, you’ll either be here in agreement or disdain over the political climate chosen by Lemmy together.
There’s no such thing as “Lemmy together”, Lemmy servers are individual instances of “Lemmy software” created and managed by different individuals that are totally independent from each other.
It’s like individual subreddits, managed by different mods, each one with it’s own rules and beliefs.
Weren’t some subreddits split and hated each other? YES
Did that make reddit not valuable as a platform? NO because there were still many subs with amazing people and quality content.
When you have millions of people, divisions are inevitable, it will surely happen here if Lemmy gets enough traction, but I don’t see it as a problem, reddit was fine regardless of it, Lemmy will be fine as well.
“Who calls the shots when everyone has equal say?” this is pretty much one of the core design goals of federated services. You get say in your server. People will federate or defederate naturally between servers, that’s… The point.
People are always “split” on all kinds of topics… Conflicts and disagreements are part of the human experience and impossible to avoid… The question is how you deal with conflicts… Trying to avoid or suppress them doesn’t work…
Nobody calls the shots, that’s the entire point… People are free to form communities and run their communities however they see fit… If a community has an issue with another community in significant enough ways, they will block each other and that’s it…
And it’s not like this is anything knew… The internet is inherently diverse when it comes to different opinions, and that’s ok…
People are always “split” on all kinds of topics… Conflicts and disagreements are part of the human experience and impossible to avoid… The question is how you deal with conflicts… Trying to avoid or suppress them doesn’t work…
Nobody calls the shots, that’s the entire point… People are free to form communities and run their communities however they see fit… If a community has an issue with another community in significant enough ways, they will block each other and that’s it…
And it’s not like this is anything knew… The internet is inherently diverse when it comes to different opinions, and that’s ok…
You were saying?
https://sh.itjust.works/post/103490
This didn’t happen because of ideology or differing views, this happened because the beehawk admins want a heavily moderated community and at the moment, they cannot do that due to too many users joining lemmy.
I’m not a lemmy admin, there were some who argued that there were better ways to address those issues, but that’s their reasoning for this, according to them, temporary de-federalisation.
Cool, where’s the button to block lemmy.ml and lemmygrad?
I’d block lemmygrad, tbh.
I’m not blocking Lemmy.ml. They are worth a little more than one or two tankie mods. If it skews a little too far that direction, tho… maybe.
With any luck, the community itself will sway larger instances. Smaller ones… who cares?
If you want to block them as a server, go to a server that already does that, there are a few.
I tried. Can’t join any of them. This was actually my 10th server I signed up for and it finally let me in. The rest mention a validation email that never comes.