• BeamBrain [he/him]
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      292 months ago

      “well in that conveniently arranged society slavery was actually the best option and everyone was happy with it.”

      agony-shivering I HATE THE THERMIAN ARGUMENT

      I HATE THE THERMIAN ARGUMENT

    • ashinadash [she/her]
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      Um ackshually smuglord my favourite Goblin Slayer discourse was all the vomit-inducing takes on SV desolate

      “its just a normie filter bro”

    • vegeta1 [none/use name]
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      162 months ago

      The goblins somehow weak and cowardly yet become a bigger threat to settlements in numbers desolate Slaughtering goblin infants is morally justified. They’ll always be bad desolate Goblins use human shields particularly human women. Also the only way of reproduction is rape of human women desolate

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      I’m ashamed that I ever said I liked that slop. It’s pure Disney morality (the good guy and bad guy are totally apparent and nothing is allowed to be complicated, ever. Now it’s super easy to project whoever you don’t like or let’s be honest, less than popular ethnic groups onto the goblins.)

      At least Frieza had something material to gain in Dragon Ball, at least in Persona 4, the killer’s a cautionary tale of people with CHUD brainworms: a misanthropic chanlord with a superiority complex cutting themselves off from the world and refuses to connect with others.

    • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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      92 months ago

      I do gotta say I like the Wisecrack video essay on Goblin Slayer that goblins represent everyday tragedies and that Goblin Slayer is himself a representation of the often maligned but essential labor that maintains society whilst “true heroes” represent and fight more existentialist and bourgeois “world ending” calamity.

      Shield Hero is just straight up slavery apologia and harem fetishism like all fucking post 2010 Isekais once studios realized lonely men spend a LOT of fucking money on that shit.

            • SeekTheDeletion [none/use name]
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              chuds seem to enjoy the simulacrum copy-of-copies more than the original thing itself. they like how everything in anime is set along rigid tropes and formulas, with immersion-breaking gimmicks like fan service. they like how everything is video-gamey and follows a very specific set of in-universe “rules” that is very hierarchical and systematized and quantified (ever notice that every single world with super powers has a ranking system where the powers are boiled down to 1-dimensional quantities?)

              This lack of realism, and favoring of idealistic platonic forms, soothes the chud mind who hates the messy chaos of the real world and wishes everything fit into tiny boxes they could sort. This sort of guilty pleasure of re-making reality to fit into platonism and overpowered main characters is inherent to the appeal of anime to a lot of reclusive people who aren’t looking for any type of realistic portrayal or connection to the world, but instead want to get lost permanently in a fake one that they have full mastery over.

              Hence waifus becoming more desirable than actual women.

                • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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                  42 months ago

                  first thing they want to do with them is crush them under the wheels of capitalism and use metagaming tricks to exploit everyone and everything in them. Maybe they didn’t want an escapist world at all; they just wanted to rule over the one they’re currently in.

                  Turns out some people just want to believe they can become the boot.

                  Little wonder that “let gamers design games” slogans were about making characters less distinctive and more generically fanservicey.

                  Really just feels like AI art of “attractive women” really fills this gap of creating the reactionary construct of the same damn person ad nauseam, that or nerd and chuds have some version of face blindness where they get upset at having to deal with varied faces of women.

              • CriticalOtaku [he/him]
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                If you can track down a copy of Otaku: Japan’s Database Animals, Hiroki Azuma actually describes this process.

                To summarize the book- he says that in our current postmodern landscape, what consumers want isn’t narrative (because stories are pointless). What they want is a database of their favourite things, and they want to selectively consume the things in the database based on their own tastes, just remixed forever (A Tsundere is a Tsundere is a Tsundere, it doesn’t matter what color is the waifu’s hair). In effect trading ‘humanity’ to become ‘animals’, just mindlessly consuming the same things over and over again.

                The analysis is postmodern and not marxist tho, so he attributes all this to the death of grand narratives and not capital. Still, the book is interesting since you can see those processes happening right now, with the Marvelification/Disneyfication of media

            • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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              132 months ago

              He honestly saw where the industry was heading before most and as a communist knew that capital would ride an industry into the ground to better reap money from easily pleased groups such as men with disposable income and very little in the way of inhibitions.

                • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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                  42 months ago

                  Macross is one of the first huge TV anime that was specifically made by anime fans. It remixed pieces of older shows, like Space Battleship Yamato, and mixed in a city pop soundtrack to gain a broad appeal.

                  Arguably, the entire Battletech franchise is like copy-of-a-copy Macross that went a very different direction that found a different valid form.

                  I think you’re mixing it up with Robotech, which adapted the first Macross show, Mospeeda, and Southern Cross into one big show. The Macross bit is mostly intact, but the English music sucks so much ass that it really messes up the show.

                  Battletech did snag the Valkyrie robots from Macross at some point (though I’m not too knowledgeable about that franchise), and Transformers used one of the Valkyrie toys as like Starscream or someone early on.

                  The original Macross show and movie are genuine classics - but they do mark a big shift away from earlier mecha shows like Gundam and Votoms, since their creators are mostly only being inspired by other anime rather than the broader influences Tomino and Takahashi drew from.

                  • AFineWayToDie [he/him]
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                    42 months ago

                    Transformers used one of the Valkyrie toys as like Starscream or someone early on.

                    Jetfire, who was named “Skyfire” in the cartoon and given a moderate re-design (and stopped appearing soon after the first season), because the toy design was licensed from Bandai, and Hasbro/Takara didn’t want to include what was basically free advertisement for their competitors’ design.

                    Battletech did snag the Valkyrie robots from Macross at some point (though I’m not too knowledgeable about that franchise)

                    A company called Harmony Gold owns the American broadcast rights to Macross, and has been infamously litigious about defending their IP, despite not using it much. It’s a hell of a story, which continues to this day I think.

      • vegeta1 [none/use name]
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        102 months ago

        I was thinking you guys were talking about redo of healer… Then I realized this is another anime. These isekai really seem to like this sadness-abysmal

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          Yeah it’s horrifying yet also weirdly funny in the saddest of ways that male isekais are largely on desire fulfillment instead of any self actualization meanwhile you look back on the first ever isekais (those with female protags) and most of the plots dealt with growing up and coming to terms with some form of trauma or issue to be better self actualized.

            • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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              52 months ago

              Oh damn that’s one of my favorite films. Was made by Wolfgang Peter so existentially German without catering to the Americanized culture of wacky childhood hijinks, instead depression and trauma.

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        Holy shit my curiousity got the best of me and in the very first episode slave trade just as you guys said stress

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          Oh God now they’re on “hey I treat my slave well” second ep. stress I already see grooming coming. I absolutely hate this shit

        • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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          42 months ago

          Yeah again no joke it is legit “oh no guess I gotta buy slaves” instead of you know just killing the slaver john-brown

          Great example of how otaku and libertarians damn near intersect into a perfect circle at times