If the US actually wanted you to spend on defense then you’d be spending. It’s that simple. Libs not being able to distinguish between what’s actually happening and what’s being said to them will never cease to be amazing.
The reality is that Europe hasn’t been spending and the US has been fine with it. And in fact, when Trump started making noises about forcing Europe to spend, that’s when the hysteria started in the US.
But let’s not let reality get in the way of nice liberal fantasies.
That seems rather at odds with the opening paragraph of the article, which is explicitly saying NATO wants Canada to have better domestic production and planning
Canada is not exactly going to be breaking away from the US regardless how much military production it does. The countries that might get ideas of becoming independent are in Europe, and as long as Europe doesn’t have a serious military industry of its own it will stay dependent on NATO which is run by the US.
If NATO was disbanded tomorrow, Canada would still have to work with the fact that its neighbour is a lot bigger than it. It seems to me that even if it cannot meaningfully escape American influence altogether, at least not for so long as America has as much power as it does, there are still always degrees of independence. So how is NATO wanting an increase in Canadian domestic military production a move to make Canada more dependent on the US? Or, if in your view it makes no difference whatsoever, how is this request relevant to it at all?
That’s my whole point, Canada is already entirely dependent on the US. That can’t change because Canada has a far smaller population than the US or Russia. No other countries are in a position to threaten Canada. The point isn’t to make Canada more dependent on the US, the point is to keep Europe dependent on the US as I’ve already explained in the previous reply and you ignored.
I ignored the part about Europe because the position of “NATO exists to keep Europe dependent on the US” is just as much at odds with the article’s opening of “NATO says it wants its members to develop national plans to bolster the capacity of their individual defence industry sectors” as it was when it was about Canada.
You said “The whole point is to make the vassals dependent on the US militarily which allows the US to control the politics of these countries.” I don’t think it’s unreasonable for me to be asking about how this relates to Canada when you said “these countries” on an article that is primarily about Canada, and you’re now saying “The point isn’t to make Canada more dependent on the US”
And now I’ve clarified for you specifically what I meant. The original comment I was replying to was asking how a military alliance could function when all members aren’t pitching in. And I’ve explained what that translates to in practice. If you have hard time understanding that, then I really can’t help you further.
Canada would still have to work with the fact that its neighbour is a lot bigger than it.
Canada occupies a total area of about 3,855,100 sq miles making it the second biggest nation in the world while the United States occupies an area of approximately 3,796,742 sq miles.
By “bigger” here I should have more explicitly made clear that I meant in population and economic terms. A bunch of largely empty land is not that significant in regards to the international balance of power in North America.
The whole point is to make the vassals dependent on the US militarily which allows the US to control the politics of these countries.
I guess that’s why the US has been pestering us to spend more on defense all these years.
But let’s not let reality get in the way of a nice conspiracy theory.
If the US actually wanted you to spend on defense then you’d be spending. It’s that simple. Libs not being able to distinguish between what’s actually happening and what’s being said to them will never cease to be amazing.
The reality is that Europe hasn’t been spending and the US has been fine with it. And in fact, when Trump started making noises about forcing Europe to spend, that’s when the hysteria started in the US.
But let’s not let reality get in the way of nice liberal fantasies.
Of course, there comes the double reverse conspiracy theory.
The only conspiracies are the ones in your head. I’m literally just describing the events that happened in the real world.
The irony actually hurts
a self referential comment if I ever saw one
That seems rather at odds with the opening paragraph of the article, which is explicitly saying NATO wants Canada to have better domestic production and planning
Do elaborate.
If Canada were to increase domestic military production, how would that make it more dependent on the US in your view?
Canada is not exactly going to be breaking away from the US regardless how much military production it does. The countries that might get ideas of becoming independent are in Europe, and as long as Europe doesn’t have a serious military industry of its own it will stay dependent on NATO which is run by the US.
If NATO was disbanded tomorrow, Canada would still have to work with the fact that its neighbour is a lot bigger than it. It seems to me that even if it cannot meaningfully escape American influence altogether, at least not for so long as America has as much power as it does, there are still always degrees of independence. So how is NATO wanting an increase in Canadian domestic military production a move to make Canada more dependent on the US? Or, if in your view it makes no difference whatsoever, how is this request relevant to it at all?
That’s my whole point, Canada is already entirely dependent on the US. That can’t change because Canada has a far smaller population than the US or Russia. No other countries are in a position to threaten Canada. The point isn’t to make Canada more dependent on the US, the point is to keep Europe dependent on the US as I’ve already explained in the previous reply and you ignored.
I ignored the part about Europe because the position of “NATO exists to keep Europe dependent on the US” is just as much at odds with the article’s opening of “NATO says it wants its members to develop national plans to bolster the capacity of their individual defence industry sectors” as it was when it was about Canada.
You said “The whole point is to make the vassals dependent on the US militarily which allows the US to control the politics of these countries.” I don’t think it’s unreasonable for me to be asking about how this relates to Canada when you said “these countries” on an article that is primarily about Canada, and you’re now saying “The point isn’t to make Canada more dependent on the US”
And now I’ve clarified for you specifically what I meant. The original comment I was replying to was asking how a military alliance could function when all members aren’t pitching in. And I’ve explained what that translates to in practice. If you have hard time understanding that, then I really can’t help you further.
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Canada occupies a total area of about 3,855,100 sq miles making it the second biggest nation in the world while the United States occupies an area of approximately 3,796,742 sq miles.
By “bigger” here I should have more explicitly made clear that I meant in population and economic terms. A bunch of largely empty land is not that significant in regards to the international balance of power in North America.
Because it’s a smoke screen to hide the fact that really don’t!!! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!
are you ok there little buddy?
I will be all better in two seconds.