Meloni heads Italy’s most rightwing government since the second world war. Italy’s criminal code punishes with a fine ranging from €1,000 to €5,000 anyone who “publicly defames the republic”, which includes the government, parliament, the courts and the army.

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    If left-wing authoritarianism isn’t an oxymoron, then what the heck does left-wing mean?

    I agree that authoritarianism does not equal fascism, but the only meaningful definition of left-right politics (in my opinion) is a measure of belief in and adherence to social hierarchies. And the USSR was definitely heavily into hierarchy.

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      Yeah, that’s where the left-right concept kinda breaks down.

      It feels wrong to say the USSR wasn’t left when you consider the many left policies they had and of course their origin.

      I also agree with your idea of what left-wing should mean. I guess there’s no way to avoid complexity with topics like this.

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      Why would it be an oxymoron? There is nothing on the political chart or inherent to it to forbid the left wing to be authoritarian.

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        This is my thinking, let me know if you see any issues with my interpretation:

        First line of Wikipedia Left-wing politics: Left-wing politics describes the range of political ideologies that support and seek to achieve social equality and egalitarianism, often in opposition to social hierarchy as a whole.

        First list of Wikiepdia Authoritarianism: Authoritarianism is a political system characterized by the rejection of political plurality, the use of strong central power to preserve the political status quo, and reductions in the rule of law, separation of powers, and democratic voting.

        By these definitions, Left-wing politics should want to evenly distribute power democratically, whereas authoritarianism wants to centralise power in a single entity such as a the military or a dictator.

        The perpetual dictatorship of the proletariat in Marxist-Leninism is functionally indifferent from the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. The authoritarian leadership just becomes the new bourgeoisie.

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          All good with the definitions, please share them as much as you want.

          My claim is extremely simple, nothing is gonna stop you as a left wing representative to reach those objectives through authoritarian means.

          I don’t see how is that hard to understand unless you claim some kind of special position for either side.

          In which case, this is not a conversation I’m interested in.