• @goat@sh.itjust.worksOPM
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    7 hours ago

    they did! Lenin, despite his solution to everything being mass murder, made some great strides.

    … Then Stalin reversed everything back to how it used to be; he effectively killed communism. And now Stalin is celebrated by tankies despite his reign ultimately leading to the collapse of the Soviet Union. Lenin warned them, damnit, he warned them!

    I always wonder if Lenin’s solution to everything wasn’t to kill everyone, would the Soviet Union still be around today?

    • @Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org
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      Lenin, despite his solution to everything being mass murder

      Isn’t that the USA foreign policy solution?
      Genociding Guatemala.
      Use chemical weapons in Vietnam against their people.
      The only country to ever use nuclear weapons on civillians.
      WMD quests.
      Smuggle drugs into their own country, in black neighbourhoods and such, to increase violence and unrest in such populations.

      Stalin is celebrated because of the rapid industrialisation and his correct prediction of the need to do it to defeat enemies, which came true with the WW2 and the Nazis being defeated by their army.

      And when some people include POW imprisonment for gulag data and Nazi deaths in the war as Stalin’s kill count, some leftists would counter it.

      And their HDI indeed improved under communism.

      • @goat@sh.itjust.worksOPM
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        33 hours ago

        yes, the US is shit, moving on.

        Stalin is celebrated because of the rapid industrialisation and his correct prediction of the need to do it to defeat enemies, which came true with the WW2 and the Nazis being defeated by their army.

        Hey, now, don’t be disingenuous. Stalin was perfectly okay with Nazi Germany and wanted an equal share in the invasion of Poland. They only helped the Allies after Nazi Germany betrayed them. If Nazi Germany didn’t betray the Union, then the Union would’ve been okay with their existence.

        And when some people include POW imprisonment for gulag data and Nazi deaths in the war as Stalin’s kill count, some leftists would counter it.

        And you doubt this? Do you doubt that Stalin’s soviet union rounded up Jews, queers and minorities for the main purpose being extermination?

    • @Asafum@feddit.nl
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      98 hours ago

      It’s almost like there’s nuance in just about all things…

      It’s too easy for us to take the “simple” reality we think we understand and feel superior to others like the example about libs loving to bomb Muslims…

      If it were just about that there are a fuckton of other places we’d be doing that as well…

        • @Asafum@feddit.nl
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          8 hours ago

          I’m not the person you were initially talking to, I was trying to (and apparently failing) support you. You had provided nuance. :P

          • @goat@sh.itjust.worksOPM
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            48 hours ago

            Oh yeah, I can see the different names now, my b. I thought your comment was sarcastic lol. I’ll delete it!