• @VantaBrandon@lemmy.world
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      178 hours ago

      This kind of puritanical shit is pretty much how Trump won

      How anyone could be delusional enough to think Trump would be better somehow for the environment is just beyond me

      • @MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml
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        32 hours ago

        trump would not be better but dems have made it clear that they dont really take the environment seriously. They say its a crisis and we have to take action but then they open up more fracking and give more money to military contractors. This doesnt make me a trump voter but it does make me tune them out when they make appeals about climate because I know the dems will still sell the climate down the river in favor of big corporate lobbies when in power. That kind of double talk makes people give up on parties and stop caring.

      • @Sooperstition
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        46 hours ago

        Nobody’s saying that the climate denier is better for the environment. We’re saying that Kamala, who “believes in science” would be a smokescreen, just like Biden was.

        If your climate agenda is to give tax credits to install heat pumps and a ton of money to EV manufacturers, and to not actually tackle the biggest polluters in the country, you don’t have a serious climate plan. Also deeply unserious is slapping tariffs on China’s affordable and reliable solar panels and EVs.

        The military is a huge polluter and greenhouse gas emitter. So are suburban neighborhoods and aviation. If you can’t tackle those by realigning foreign policy, infrastructure, and urban development, then you’re not going far enough.

        This won’t be solved by giving a ton of money to private companies and hoping they find a profit motive. We’d need a vast expansion of state capacity at this point.

        • @booly@sh.itjust.works
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          146 minutes ago

          The Inflation Reduction Act included $65 million in research grants for low emission aviation and $245 million in development of biofuel based Sustainable Aviation Fuel (aka SAF). And the $3 billion in loan guarantees for manufacturing advanced vehicle technologies included certain aircraft.

          There were also $5 billion in loan guarantees for shutting down our heaviest polluting power plants or retooling them to greener generation methods.

          There was $3 billion in buying zero emissions vehicles and charging infrastructure for the postal service.

          The Inflation Reduction Act, which inherited a lot of the stuff from the Green New Deal, was a lot of things, and I don’t think I’ve ever heard it called deeply unserious before today.

          • @MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml
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            18 minutes ago

            Fixing the environment means pushing back against the profit motive of corporations. You can’t fix the climate and stay friendly with big polluters. What the dems are doing a half-measures that will still see our future ruined because they refuse to go against their corporate donors